Here is a Reddit post by trialofkabr.
So far this is the best theory to the VoG mystery I have come across. Does the answer lay with the Oracles?
After studying the oracles for the past two months and learning of their spawn order, the tones they make, the scale they play is (C) lydian dominant, or better known as the acoustic scale, the scale is C D E F# G A Bb (C)... i developed a way to conduct the oracles as one person to compose the ascending and descending scale, by this method you would kill the very first oracle that spawns and begin ascension, and on wave 7 the last oracle to spawn would end descension, ive been trying to get a group together forever to attempt this, it asks just as much of the team as it does the person conducting the song/scale.
At the bottom i will leave tables and info to train you how to do this and maybe even come up with another breakthrough as last night after a long day of destiny i found myself in orbit, and then it happened....
THE ORBIT SOUNDTRACK STARTS OFF AS THE ORACLES HYMN!!!!!!
Im not exactly sure which orbit sound track it is but whenever you first load into the menu for selecting planets it plays the oracles preview scale, check it out and compare the first part to this link of the oracles hymn, which is in C lydian dominant.
Destiny Original Game Soundtrack - The Great Unkn…: http://youtu.be/WvJUgLSsX0Y
The hymn starts at roughly 13 seconds in the video. Compair it with this
https://soundcloud.com/rlcompositions/the-oracles-hymn
I need help deciphering this mystery... the old halo skull was from the halo music being played by jumping through the rings, the greatest skull mystery was laid to rest because people read the code and figured out the pattern needed.
BUNGIE LEARNED FROM THIS!!! Xurs inventory is completely predetermined, it is subject to change if they will it, but for the most part its already wrote Yet nobody has mined xurs inventory for weeks to come. I believe they hid certain code, and secrets of the VoG could apply to hidden code aswell if xurs code is hidden, so im going to brief everybody now, here is everything i can share, and i will start with a piece of flavorful grimoire.
"You will meet the Templar in a place that is a time before or after stars, the stars will move around you, they will mark you, they will sing to you, they will decide your fate. I drank of them. it tasted like the sea."
Kabr tells us the oracles taste of the sea, like C lydian dominant(the acoustic scale). This is no coincidence. It is a lead.
Now ill take you too the tables ive constructed to debrief the oracles
1 Mid L2 R2
2 L1 L3 R3
3 R1 R3 L3 R2 L2
4 Mid R2 R1 L3 L1
5 L1 R3 L3 L2 R2 R1 Mid
6 R1 L3 L1 R2 Mid L2 R3
7 R3 R2 R1 L3 L1 L2 R1 R2 Mid
The notes played;
1 - C F# G
2 - D A Bb
3 - E Bb A G F#
4 - C G A E D
5 - D Bb A F# G E C
6 - E A D G C F# Bb
7 - Bb G E A D F# E G C
Okay, so now we can play the oracles hymn, at the moment i believe one person "conducts the oracles" and the others kill the excess, the oracles interact with you, so and so killed an oracle, this depends on the team just as much as the "conductor", so now i will show you how to do this.
Ex: when it spawned/(note played)
Phase 1: 1(C)
Phase 2: 1(D)
Phase 3: 1(E), 5(F#)
Phase 4: 2(G), 3(A)
Phase 5: 2(Bb), 7(C) (ascending complete.)
Phase 6: 5(C) , 7(Bb)
Phase 7: 4(A) ,8(G), 6(F#), 7(E), 5(D), 9(C) (completes descenscion.) Its interesting to note that you are given just enough notes in the waves of oracles to play the ascending and descending scale as one person.
The only part that asks much of you is 8(G), 6(F#), 7(E), 5(D) On wave 7, and ive figured out the solution to this, at first i thought, well okay ill have rockets for that, but then i wondered, what if i just have a teammate almost kill it and leave it there for me to easily clean up and complete what ive pondered upon for ages.
Sidenotes/credits https://soundcloud.com/rlcompositions/the-oracles-hymn By /u/rubixthegreat in his thread http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2liu8h/the_oracles_hymn/
Shout out to; /r/raidsecrets for all their encouragement and kind words that lead me and /u/wordofcrota to continue investigating and posting this here for all too see.
Shout out to ; /u/Captain_chips for telling me the name of the orbit song in the comments below!
TLDR; oracles play the beggining of the song that plays when you first enter orbit and can select a planet, when they present themselves in the preview waves. The scale is c lydian dominant (acoustic scale) and kabr says the oracles taste of the sea. Iwhbyd skull was also found by playing the soundtrack on the rings. Here we have 7 notes(8 notes played since you have to return to the starting of the scale to end it) that can be played ascending and descending, beginning on the first and ending on the last.
Edit; thanks for the love guys, ill keep updates flowing as i can!
Edit 2; due to popular demand we have created a post on /r/fireteams for people to add eachother and group up. Here it is http://www.reddit.com/r/Fireteams/comments/2x62ra/oracle_testing_group_sign_ups/
Edit3; thank you mysterious stranger for my first ever reddit gold!
[b]ClockingGames EDITS:[/b]
Edit 1: It is great to see the VoG mystery well and truly alive and thriving. Smartie of Doom blew part of my mind, even though I had read this card at least 20 times, he reminds me -
Smartie Of Doom
Man i think you are on to something here, have you thought about how the conductor could use the vex mythoclast? It's description is: 'More and instrument than a weapon'. Perhaps this has a role?
The Vex Grimoire reads as follows -
[quote]The Mythoclast is a Vex instrument from some far-flung corner of time and space, mysteriously fit for human hands. Its origins, mechanism of action, and ultimate purpose remain unknown. Perhaps it will reveal itself to you, in time...[/quote]
Great post Smartie, please all keep this in mind when trying this method.
[b]EDIT 2:[/b] So many likes, some dislikes, great comments and some, well let's say funny responses.
From the looks of things it seems like no one has tried this yet or if they have, are yet to post about it.
We are going to plough through this theory tomorrow (god willing) and see if we can bust the myth.
So far there are 2 of us and we require 4 more Guardians with a bit of patience and some time (pardon the pun)
If you have a PS4 - Mic - level 32 Guardian and will be around at 7pm GMT then please let me know.
If you understand how this theory works then all well and good, if not, we can go through it step by step.
Have a great weekend all, stay safe and keep the secrets of the VoG alive!
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Wow. And I was here thinking Bungie were just big fans of The Sound of Music.
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As much as I want to believe, I just can't. I don't think they put that much effort into this game guys. You'll be going around in circles trying to unlock clues forever. Lol
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I'm not hearing the similarity between the notes the Oracles play and the actual soundtrack. The pitch seems way off.
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Has anyone looked at each oracle with the vision of confluence? Maybe there will be a difference in the one that needs to be "played"
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Edytowany przez użytkownika PasGardable: 2/26/2015 7:34:01 PMThe tin foil hat is very noticeable in this one...
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1 OdpowiedźOK, this interesting, but its not really a 'mystery'. its just a kind of coincidence of sorts. the developers made the song, then made the oracles to do the same tune. there is nothing mysterious about it. it doesn't do anything.
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3 OdpowiedziOk...usually I read everything in a post, but this one is way to long. Can someone summarize? If not, I'll just come back later when I'm super bored.
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2 OdpowiedziAny thoughts of the strangers rifle doing anything? the description sounds like its from another time?
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Where is Horizon when you need him?
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6 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika cuzzybubba1: 2/26/2015 7:00:14 PMI wish people would realize there is no mystery, it's a bunch of colorful cubes in a game that you shoot and they die. There is no lore or hidden secrets except for that chest for stopping the Templar teleport, that's it. You all have gone way to overboard and give Bungie WAY too much credit for secrets and lore and puzzles. It's just a level, a cool one at that but that's it. Hell, it doesn't even have an in-game story it's written on a bunch of stupid cards.
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6 OdpowiedziI love the mystery that has been surrounding VoG since it launched, and I have personally been exploring it since, but one question always comes to my mind: Why aren't we looking in Crota's End well?
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If you're on Xbox one I'm down to try this out, have a 32 titan, vex, and (close to) perfect pitch, which may come in handy.
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Studying them for 2 months? wtf...you really think the people who made this game put this much effort into this? unreal
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So "how" does one conduct the oracles if even if you know the order? Does one specific person need to kill them in a certain order? I think they theory has potential, but what is the interaction method? Also, my bet is that IF there are some additional chests or secrets to be found, it has to do with the past / future ( venus / mars ) gates at the gate keeper encounter.
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Is this worth the read?
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You are thinking way too much into this.
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1 OdpowiedźWow please reply
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Isn't there a door behind the templar similar looking to the door you open at the start?
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What ever happened to just playing the game?
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6 Odpowiedzii have a theory here. its been brought to my attention that in the very beginning of the raid you can't stand where the spire forms. there is a theory however that if you deactivate the plates by just briefly neutralizing them without turning them white, that someone may be able to stand where the spire is built. so lets say that the theory of "finishing" the vault of glass after killing atheon is true. you'd need to find a way to keep the door into the final room open. this is just speculation but what if by building someone into the spire they were somehow both a part of, and not part of the fire team? this way it would still be possible to open the door without them coming along. if thats possible then perhaps there are other places where one member needs to be left behind and by staying in a specific place they wouldn't be needed for the glass throne portion of the raid. that said the number of people needed for the atheon fight is technically four, unless you're "thelegendhimself" and you can do it with 2. now logistically speaking you'll need at least three people for confluxes and if you were to do the conducting on the oracles as previously mentioned you'd most likely need at least four. my take on where your fire team members may need to be is as follows. the first would obviously be in the starting area. the second would have to be somewhere in the secret route underneath the first chest on the way to the templars well. the third would need to be somewhere in the templars well. i think it is required for three to be left
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7 Odpowiedzican someone comment on this so i can read later? thanks
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3 OdpowiedziComment please, I need to save this.
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3 OdpowiedziPls comment so I can read later:)
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Edytowany przez użytkownika TheWanderinHobo: 2/26/2015 6:43:08 PMone of the more interesting posts regarding this mystery chest. I know nothing of musical notes but im down to try it with you. I am on xboxone, play Friday and Saturday nights. GT: MTU Alpha Husky Edit: I have a vex mythoclast if that helps Edit 2: Since the Vex can only be obtained from hard mode, are we to assume that this mystery chest can only be obtained in hard mode as well?
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Sounds very plausible to me, did u already attempt this or anyone else did?
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1 OdpowiedźReposting for visibility, from under Smartie Of Doom's post. [quote]Could the Pocket Infinity have a role, as well? "You cannot shake the feeling that this is less a weapon than a doorway." (appx.) The description fits the same semi-suggestive stance that the Mythoclast does, and from a lore perspective the PI is a product of reverse engineered Vex micro-gateway loops, and by reading the grimoire it could possibly draw from Vex energy networks. Dunno, it crossed my mind as I read through.[/quote]