[quote]People aren’t ignorant of how to play tribute. It’s PVP. They want to kill players. Not bank crests. [/quote] “A great many of them are. We do kill players. People have to kill to have crests to bank.” I have a low opinion of humanity. Even I don’t believe people are ignorant of how to play Tribute. You’re free to your opinion about your teammates. Yes. You have to kill to obtain crests to bank. But you get no points for the kill and killers don’t give two s41ts about banking. Which is fine by me. [quote]Removing normal quickplay, replacing it with IB, then expecting people who are looking forward to IB to slay out, but expecting them instead to collect and bank motes is asinine. [/quote] That's fair. [quote]It’s not that players can’t collect and bank motes. They don’t want to, and I don’t blame them. [/quote] “Many don't want to capture objectives in Control. Arm the Cabal explosives in Countdown. Some refuse to gather crests in Supremacy. People don't survive in Survival.” Control is different. A player can ignore control points and still hugely influence the outcome by slaying out. In tribute, less so because there are no points on kill. And, yes, I recognize that you need to kill to create crests. But whether they are banked is a whole other story. Supremacy. You also get points on kills. Crests are a bonus. People not surviving in survival doesn’t mean they aren’t playing the objective. It means they suck. You’re reaching, by your logic any one that sucks would not be playing the “objective”. [quote]Creating a mode where you get zero points for kills …. In PVP is ill conceived from its inception.[/quote] “Kills are not the ultimate goal but a necessary aspect of the game's design. Teams that kill more and at the right time will likely succeed over a team less equipped to do so. Why is the banking of motes and a lack of points solely from killing so offensive to you? It's still a Player vs Player experience.” It’s not offensive to me. I never said it was. I said Bungie creating a mode where you get “zero” points for kills is -blam!- because it is tilting the scale to having to play the objective. In a “shooter” it is axiomatic that there WILL be players who just want to go and kill. It is a failure to create a game mode that fails to recognize such a simple fact and a failure to award any points on a kill. The stupidity is what’s offensive to me.