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Modificato da thextreme76:
1/18/2021 8:59:50 PM
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Think about it. The whole point of sunsetting is to push people to pursue loot. What reason is there to pursue the reissued loot, or any loot for that matter, if you can just use the loot you already had? Perhaps you didn't grasp the concept of sunsetting in the first place.
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[quote]Think about it. The whole point of sunsetting is to push people to pursue loot. What reason is there to pursue the reissued loot, or any loot for that matter, if you can just use the loot you already had? Perhaps you didn't grasp the concept of sunsetting in the first place.[/quote] Cool victim blaming bro
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Modificato da thextreme76: 1/19/2021 3:18:53 AMOh please, get some thicker skin. There are no victims here. This is Bungie's game. They told us this is how it's going to roll out well in advance of purchase. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to play it.
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It is my money, so if bungie wants to sell me the game. They should sell what the Costumer wants.if your a stubborn business owner you won't get business and you will drive your money away. Which money, is why there is a Company, and Bungie is a Business, not a School Yard Bully They aren't [b]Entitled[/b] to anyone's money. And the man has a point, Your Victims Blaming
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You're not the only customer. There are lots of customers and Bungie is making decisions that they believe is best for the longevity of the game. Time will tell if it was a profitable decision. If too many players dislike the direction that Bungie is going in enough to not pay for the next season/DLC then Bungie will most likely change their mind. I don't agree with everything they've done, and I don't like all the decisions they've made but the game is still worth my money as of now. We'll see how it plays out in the future, but if you think that you alone are going to change their minds then that's naïve to say the least. And again, I'm not victim blaming. He knew that sunsetting was a thing and that reissues would be a thing. He chose to buy the DLC anyway, I would presume he bought it. If he did buy it, then that's his own fault. If he didn't then I don't give a rip about his opinion. In either case he is not a victim. None of you are.
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Modificato da Veldrin: 1/18/2021 11:15:36 PMInstead of sunsetting stuff and puttin 80% of the game into the vault at once. How about putting stuff into the vault only step by step. Maybe one planet first only, not four at once. How about creating meaningful content. How about creating interesting loot. It doesn't need to be stronger, just different. Be it sound, look, animation, whatever. Bungie implemented sunsetting, because they have a skeleton crew. 95% of their employees are working on Matter. Destiny is in maintenance mode and Bungie wants to hide this fact by bringing vip patrols with loading times as seasonal content and fueling the hamsterwheel by sunsetting your gear to make you re-grind them. Zero effort - maximum profit. Oh wait! Not maximum profit because playerbase already declining.
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Modificato da thextreme76: 1/19/2021 3:20:26 AMI agree that Bungie could have rolled this out better and in stages, but that's in the past. No getting it back. This is the game we have now, and any loot injections, re-issue or otherwise, are welcome. Here's hoping the new perks will be interesting to pursue. We don't know how much of their crew is working on Matter. That game is still in it's infancy. It would be dumb to have 95% of their staff working on it. Let's not forget that this is uncharted territory. Most of the game is being developed from people's homes right now. We have no idea how much of a hinderance that is. Let's cut them some slack until things return to some semblance of normalcy.
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Nor did Bungie. Sunsetting is supposed to give way to new weapons, not the same we have previously acquired. It's also supposed to shift metas, but old metas will eventually swing back around again if those weapons that were a part of it are updated/reissued. I wont be surprised if Waking Vigil is up there when they are reissued
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A lot of metas were defined by the weapon its self but others were defined by the perks the weapons could roll in combination with it's frame. Now if those weapons can't roll those then the meta would shift. If the perks are left the same then yeah it would likely fall in the exact same place it last was.
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Modificato da thextreme76: 1/19/2021 3:21:47 AMThey never said we wouldn't get reissues. In fact they stated out in the open at the very beginning that there would be re-issues of old weapons with new perks. That's what this is. You have absolutely no reason to complain about this, as you knew it was coming. They never tried to hide that. Let's not forget that these weapons are absolutely free. I'm ok with this. I like the moon and I like some of those weapons. Now I will have a reason to go back and try to get some cool rolls.
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Did you? Reissued gear isn’t new.... it’s in the name...
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But it's still gear that you have to chase if you want to use it in higher level content. No using old weapons that have been collecting dust in the vault. You still have to go out and get it. That's the point.
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Modificato da Unbrandedpie: 1/19/2021 5:19:37 AMBringing the cap on all old gear when it’s reissued does not stop players from grinding new rolls or playing the content that now drops pinnacle gear 🤷♂️ You are arguing a mute point... it’s not new and there is no reason to not bring up the old existing one
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You don't get pinnacle gear in the old dungeons or on the moon/dreaming city. That's reserved for new content. This is a free loot injection to give us a reason to go into older content. That's all. There is absolutely no reason to be whining over this.
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There was absolutely no reason to sunset this gear then reintroduced it a season later cause they -blam!-ed up 🤷♂️. The content will be relevant when they bring back the gear. That is enough to play it... meaning they can bring up all the existing gear to current cap and people will STILL play the relevant content... There is absolutely no good argument to not want existing gear to be brought up. It also kills a lot of incentive for veteran players. No one wants to regrind their god roll Retold Tale 🤷♂️ but people will play the content to try and get one of the new rolls EVEN IF THE OLD ONE WAS BROUGHT FORWARD.
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If a player already had god-roll weapons from that content, then they are significantly less likely to feel the need to go for another. That is a fact. We see it all the time. People get god-rolls and never touch the content again. And besides it only causes more bloat in a person's vault. People will be afraid to get rid of old sunset gear because of the possibility that it might be re-issued some day. Did you just read what you posted? Nobody wants to regrind the Retold Tale, but they'll do it anyway...I guarantee that a player will be much more likely to regrind the Retold Tale, or any other weapon if they don't have it anymore.
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Bloat in a vault isn’t a valid reason to get rid of weapons... gear with timers just won’t be kept and the vault loses its purpose.... People are less likely to grind god rolls that won’t last. Their reason to grind content is gone and most won’t do the content past one run cause... what’s the point... you know... the literal thing that is happening right now...
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of course they will go for a weapon they can se for a YEAR. The gun isn't going away in 2 weeks. That's plenty of time. And yes vault bloat is just as valid a reason as any argument you've offered. Just dismissing it doesn't invalidate it.
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Vault bloat doesn’t exist... people will keep what they want regardless of cap level for whatever reason they want... People can keep or delete things regardless of cap levels... putting cap levels just takes away the reason to keep things or vault anything besides exotics 🤷♂️ They can’t use the weapon for a year unless they get it the day it comes out... and they get the roll they want... the second a patch drops weapons those weapons are already on a timer before anyone gets a hold of them... it’s dumb considering people will get the guns regardless... For vault bloat to exists, you know that thing you consider a valid argument, it means that people collected weapons while they weren’t capped. Vault bloat existing would be literal proof people will still grind new guns while their old ones are relevant...
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A lot of people have already stated on this thread that they deleted their sunset weapons that are being reissued. Why because they weren't expecting to ever be able to use them in end game content. If they thought there was the chance that the level cap would have been raised, they wouldn't have deleted them, and vault bloat occurs. Now, I'm not saying that is a major factor in Bungies decision making but probably one of many small ones that makes this a better option.
