When you fire shot by shot, instead of just holding down the trigger, you fire way faster and with all the benefits from Focused Fire. This is common knowledge between SUROS Regime Users. However, with the recent nerf, SUROS Regime has lost its status as the absolute beast it once was. It's still effective, sure, but there's no point in using it when you can simply switch to the "sniper cannon" Hawkmoon or the "two shots and poison from across the map" Thorn.

the real power behind suros in pvp is the ability to alternate the fire on a target.

That's why I have two. One isn't upgraded. ;)

You cant use purely statistics without factoring in player skill. The slower fire allows better accuracy. How much dps increase this will cause is different per player (one could argue that a player should be skilled enough to make all-crits in both situations, a bit unrealistic id say). You get more dmg per magazine, you get better accuracy, you dont need to reload as often, becomes more effective at a longer range. Those are all factors that need to be counted, not just flat dps. And then there is ofcourse preference. Oh, and on average, more than half my scoped shots are crits, something i couldnt do as easily with a higher rof.

I truly hate that perk. I wish i never upgraded it.

When you look at burst damage (dps within 1 magazine), then yes it is a nerf. Once you look at dps over a prolonged period (taking in effect the downtime from reloading), it actually isn't a nerf. It comes out to be about the same. From my calculations using two 300 suroses, one with the upgrade and one without, the burst dps against lvl 32 enemies of fast suros is 1339 dps. The slow suros is 1213 dps. Once you look at real dps by factoring in reload, fast suros is 906 dps and slow suros is 913 dps. Keep in mind these numbers do not take the "suros regime" upgrade into account, which you would have with the slow suros, but not the fast. For PvE I would use the slow suros with the perk. For PvP I would probably use the fast non-upgraded suros. For abyss defaint, the fast abyss did 1617 burst dps, while the slow did 1345. Prolonged real dps the fast did 953 dps and the slow did 938 dps. Seeing how you get to choose fast vs slow on this gun without sacrifising upgrades, I would choose fast abyss. But if you are using either of these weapons in PvE, then you are drastically holding yourself back. By my calculations, these 2 weapons do about 60% of the dps of the top weapons (Vex mythoclast, Saturn Rapier, TFWPKY 1969, and a few other scout rifles). If you have to use an autorifle, you should choose vision of confluence against even lvl32 enemies as it does 84% of the damage of the top weapons. Much higher than suros and abyss.

Of course it takes longer to empty the mag with ff on!! Lol, it makes the gun FIRE SLOWER

I think this was pointed out months ago. At least on my abyss I can choose not to use it but not sure of the damage difference on that one.

So how did u get the focused fire data and the non focused fire data with one suros lol?

Good post! Bungie will probably take this into account now.

Been saying this before the patch, have an upgraded suros for pve. Then have 1 un upgraded for pvp.