I played a lot of WoW in my day and i never pved but i also wasn't getting dominated by a bunch of nerds in pve gear.. That's exactly what is happening to me in this game. Kids who no life all day and do the hardmode raids come into Iron banner and dominate and it's bs. I sit and play like 10 or 15 games a day of crucible and i don't get shit for gear... I should be stacked with gear imo because i'm almost always mvp in crucible and have the same amount of time played as a lot of pvers who are 2 lvls higher than me. Killing computers should never be the focal point of a game. -blam!- you Bungie! I bought this game because of how good H2 and H3 were and now ur just -blam!-ing me left and right