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Patrol is a fun hangout where guardians don’t shoot each other. They just chill. They sometimes emote each other and teabag each other all they want.
I know, crazy idea, right?
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[quote]Patrol is a fun hangout where guardians don’t shoot each other. They just chill. They sometimes emote each other and teabag each other all they want. I know, crazy idea, right?[/quote] All fun in games and then Bungie turns it into red dead online lol. Steal someone’s exotic engram lol
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[quote]All fun in games and then Bungie turns it into red dead online lol. Steal someone’s exotic engram lol[/quote] Game has always been broken.🤣
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Editado por AQME: 9/15/2022 3:43:08 PMYour failure to understand what a casual pvp mode is is on no one but you
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[quote]Your failure to understand what a casual pvp mode is is on no one but you[/quote] Explain to me what is casual mode here and where do you find it in Destiny franchise? I’m listening.
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[quote][quote]Your failure to understand what a casual pvp mode is is on no one but you[/quote] Explain to me what is casual mode here and where do you find it in Destiny franchise? I’m listening.[/quote] You won’t find it in D2. I literally have to practice my aim and trick shots everytime I think about playing pvp in D2. I guess I still play because I’m still waiting on that next new awesome 1st person shooter and I want my aim to still be crispy for it.
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[quote]You won’t find it in D2. I literally have to practice my aim and trick shots everytime I think about playing pvp in D2. I guess I still play because I’m still waiting on that next new awesome 1st person shooter and I want my aim to still be crispy for it.[/quote] Exactly.
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[quote][quote]Your failure to understand what a casual pvp mode is is on no one but you[/quote] Explain to me what is casual mode here and where do you find it in Destiny franchise? I’m listening.[/quote] A causal mode you say? Hey my friend Overwatch and Splitgate have the right idea.
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[quote][quote]Your failure to understand what a casual pvp mode is is on no one but you[/quote] Explain to me what is casual mode here and where do you find it in Destiny franchise? I’m listening.[/quote] A casual mode is where you have the fastest possible matchmaking in games that have nothing on the line (rank, rewards, etc), they are directly comparable to a pickup game of baseball in your neighborhood Where do you find it in d2? Outside the competitive modes of trials, survival and elimination
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[quote]A casual mode is where you have the fastest possible matchmaking in games that have nothing on the line (rank, rewards, etc), they are directly comparable to a pickup game of baseball in your neighborhood Where do you find it in d2? Outside the competitive modes of trials, survival and elimination[/quote] In D1, the fastest matchmaking in crucible is called SBMM. They have it in all the playlist. In retrospect, SBMM is casual in D1 back in the day when it was active. I do survival and elimination to chill. I call it my casual game. I grab a beer at night and chill on those playlist. They become my escape from reality game mode. That becomes my casual if I want to. So, in that perspective, casual could be any game mode as long as it feels casual to the one playing. That’s a wide definition of casual in Destiny, and maybe Gaming in general.
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[quote][quote]A casual mode is where you have the fastest possible matchmaking in games that have nothing on the line (rank, rewards, etc), they are directly comparable to a pickup game of baseball in your neighborhood Where do you find it in d2? Outside the competitive modes of trials, survival and elimination[/quote] In D1, the fastest matchmaking in crucible is called SBMM. They have it in all the playlist. In retrospect, SBMM is casual in D1 back in the day when it was active. [/quote]This is absolutely false. Aside from taken king until the april update D1 was and is pure CBMM [quote]I do survival and elimination to chill. I call it my casual game. I grab a beer at night and chill on those playlist. They become my escape from reality game mode. That becomes my casual if I want to. So, in that perspective, casual could be any game mode as long as it feels casual to the one playing. That’s a wide definition of casual in Destiny, and maybe Gaming in general.[/quote] Your skill bracket may feel chill in survival but it is ultimately a competitive playliat as you lose rank off a loss
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[quote]This is absolutely false. Aside from taken king until the april update D1 was and is pure CBMM[/quote] D1 is always SBMM. It was never CBMM. [quote]Your skill bracket may feel chill in survival but it is ultimately a competitive playliat as you lose rank off a loss[/quote] Still casual for me. On that note, casual could cover a wide scope of game modes.
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[quote][quote]This is absolutely false. Aside from taken king until the april update D1 was and is pure CBMM[/quote] D1 is always SBMM. It was never CBMM.[/quote] You are dead wrong, bungie added sb to D1 with the launch of taken king and after initially denying it later admitted they had done so - I can literally pull the twab where they admit to adding it for you, this is not an opinion. It was subse removed with the april update due to community demand [quote]Still casual for me. On that note, casual could cover a wide scope of game modes.[/quote] But I am stating what the intended goals for each playlist are, not what they are in your experience
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[quote][quote][quote]This is absolutely false. Aside from taken king until the april update D1 was and is pure CBMM[/quote] D1 is always SBMM. It was never CBMM.[/quote] You are dead wrong, bungie added sb to D1 with the launch of taken king and after initially denying it later admitted they had done so - I can literally pull the twab where they admit to adding it for you, this is not an opinion. It was subse removed with the april update due to community demand[/quote] Show me TWAB. I know D1 is SBMM because I never play opponents that are higher than me. That’s only in CBMM. If D1 is CBMM, then clearly it’s a different version since D2 CBMM is the worse version between the two when you have Mercy matches every game in D2.🤣 [quote][quote]Still casual for me. On that note, casual could cover a wide scope of game modes.[/quote] But I am stating what the intended goals for each playlist are, not what they are in your experience[/quote]Casual is exactly what the definition of my experience is, not what the goal for each playlist are. The playlists doesn’t say it is a casual game at all. We say what is casual based on what we feel the game is.
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Editado por AQME: 9/16/2022 5:21:59 PM[quote][quote][quote][quote]This is absolutely false. Aside from taken king until the april update D1 was and is pure CBMM[/quote] D1 is always SBMM. It was never CBMM.[/quote] You are dead wrong, bungie added sb to D1 with the launch of taken king and after initially denying it later admitted they had done so - I can literally pull the twab where they admit to adding it for you, this is not an opinion. It was subse removed with the april update due to community demand[/quote] Show me TWAB. I know D1 is SBMM because I never play opponents that are higher than me. That’s only in CBMM. If D1 is CBMM, then clearly it’s a different version since D2 CBMM is the worse version between the two when you have Mercy matches every game in D2.🤣[/quote] Here is a gamerant article from after taken king when bungie admitted they had added sbmm, the entire Y1 was pure Cbmm and after the april update sb was removed by community request and stayed cbmm till today. https://gamerant.com/destiny-skill-based-matchmaking-implemented/ You enjoyed D1 pvp under cbmm, a lot of lower end players who don't know d1 was cb claim they loved it but when confronted by the fact that it was cb suddenly try to evade around the fact. [quote][quote][quote]Still casual for me. On that note, casual could cover a wide scope of game modes.[/quote] But I am stating what the intended goals for each playlist are, not what they are in your experience[/quote]Casual is exactly what the definition of my experience is, not what the goal for each playlist are. The playlists doesn’t say it is a casual game at all. We say what is casual based on what we feel the game is.[/quote] And I'm telling you what the intended playstyles are for each mode in d2 - which are the same goals in every other shooter in the world. Comp games have skill or rank based mm, casual games have connection or no filters at all
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[quote]Here is a gamerant article from after taken king when bungie admitted they had added sbmm, the entire Y1 was pure Cbmm and after the april update sb was removed by community request and stayed cbmm till today. https://gamerant.com/destiny-skill-based-matchmaking-implemented/ You enjoyed D1 pvp under cbmm, a lot of lower end players who don't know d1 was cb claim they loved it but when confronted by the fact that it was cb suddenly try to evade around the fact.[/quote] If D1 was CBMM, why can’t they replicate it in here on D2? If D1 was CBMM, then it is not the same version as what we have here in D2 CBMM. Bungie themselves said it, this CBMM creates a very wide skill gap that the higher tier players are virtually unkillable. Even the matches are worse with blowouts and mercies over and over for as long as you play? Explain to me why this doesn’t happen in D1? Explain to me why there is a wide skill gap here in D2 that sweats become unkillable but not in D1? I’ll wait. [quote]And I'm telling you what the intended playstyles are for each mode in d2 - which are the same goals in every other shooter in the world. Comp games have skill or rank based mm, casual games have connection or no filters at all[/quote] Nobody ever said their PvP is casual. When you say casual, it’s the experience, not the name of the game.
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[quote]If D1 was CBMM, why can’t they replicate it in here on D2?[/quote]They have? [quote]If D1 was CBMM, then it is not the same version as what we have here in D2 CBMM.[/quote]It is... [quote]Bungie themselves said it, this CBMM creates a very wide skill gap that the higher tier players are virtually unkillable.[/quote]Yes cbmm makes it so players of all tiers play together. And? Higher tier players are just as killable as bottom tiers. [quote]Even the matches are worse with blowouts and mercies over and over for as long as you play?[/quote] The majority of your or anyone's games are not mercies or blowouts. You are OVERWHELMINGLY matched vs gold and silver elo opponents under cbmm. [quote]Explain to me why this doesn’t happen in D1? Explain to me why there is a wide skill gap here in D2 that sweats become unkillable but not in D1? I’ll wait.[/quote] It does happen in d1 and there was a wide skill range in d1 (though again sweats are just as killable there as low tier players same with d2, you seem to think good player = overshields which is ridiculously untrue) [quote]When you say casual, it’s the experience, not the name of the game.[/quote] You don't have a basic understanding of something that literally every shooter game on the planet do. According to your logic since everything is competitive there should only be 1 playlist....
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Bungie themselves said CBMM created a wide skill gap that higher skilled guardians are virtually unkillable by lower skilled ones. Bungie said it. You know, the guys making the game that you play. And this didn’t happen in D1. Mercies and game blowouts also didn’t happen 10 or 20 games in a row successively in D1. There are Mercy games but once every 10 games. That’s completely the opposite of what D2 CBMM is. [quote]You don't have a basic understanding of something that literally every shooter game on the planet do. According to your logic since everything is competitive there should only be 1 playlist....[/quote] Casual doesn’t exist. It’s an experience, not a name of a game.
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[quote]Bungie themselves said CBMM created a wide skill gap that higher skilled guardians are virtually unkillable by lower skilled ones. Bungie said it. You know, the guys making the game that you play.[/quote]The fact is that higher end players take the same damage to kill as lower ends, can you tell me where bungie have said this? Because is makes no logical sense [quote]And this didn’t happen in D1. Mercies and game blowouts also didn’t happen 10 or 20 games in a row successively in D1. There are Mercy games but once every 10 games. That’s completely the opposite of what D2 CBMM is.[/quote]Blowouts have never happened to anyone 3 games in a row, let alone "10-20", this is absolutely false and like I said each and every single players game history porches that the massive majority of thier games are vs gold and silver elo players - who can't mercy The same exact things happened in d1 as d2 [quote]Casual doesn’t exist. It’s an experience, not a name of a game.[/quote] You keep telling yourself that - at odds with every shooter game for thr past 20 years and if that were true would make no sense to have more then 1 playlist.
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[quote][quote]Bungie themselves said CBMM created a wide skill gap that higher skilled guardians are virtually unkillable by lower skilled ones. Bungie said it. You know, the guys making the game that you play.[/quote]The fact is that higher end players take the same damage to kill as lower ends, can you tell me where bungie have said this? Because is makes no logical sense [quote]And this didn’t happen in D1. Mercies and game blowouts also didn’t happen 10 or 20 games in a row successively in D1. There are Mercy games but once every 10 games. That’s completely the opposite of what D2 CBMM is.[/quote]Blowouts have never happened to anyone 3 games in a row, let alone "10-20", this is absolutely false and like I said each and every single players game history porches that the massive majority of thier games are vs gold and silver elo players - who can't mercy The same exact things happened in d1 as d2 [quote]Casual doesn’t exist. It’s an experience, not a name of a game.[/quote] You keep telling yourself that - at odds with every shooter game for thr past 20 years and if that were true would make no sense to have more then 1 playlist.[/quote] https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/51618 Everything is there. Including how matches get mercies. Take your time to read. Enjoy!
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[quote]https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/51618 Everything is there. Including how matches get mercies. Take your time to read. Enjoy![/quote] Is this supposed to prove anything? I never said there weren't mercies. You are the one claiming D1 wasn't cbmm and when I clearly showed you otherwise you keep claiming it was different when it wasn't 😂🤣
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[quote][quote]https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/51618 Everything is there. Including how matches get mercies. Take your time to read. Enjoy![/quote] Is this supposed to prove anything? I never said there weren't mercies. You are the one claiming D1 wasn't cbmm and when I clearly showed you otherwise you keep claiming it was different when it wasn't 😂🤣[/quote] If D1 was, then it’s a different version than what they did here with D2 CBMM having unkillable guardians and frequent occurrences of mercies in successive matches.
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[quote][quote][quote]https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/51618 Everything is there. Including how matches get mercies. Take your time to read. Enjoy![/quote] Is this supposed to prove anything? I never said there weren't mercies. You are the one claiming D1 wasn't cbmm and when I clearly showed you otherwise you keep claiming it was different when it wasn't 😂🤣[/quote] If D1 was, then it’s a different version than what they did here with D2 CBMM having unkillable guardians and frequent occurrences of mercies in successive matches.[/quote] It's not different whatsoever, what proof do you have it is different? There are no "unkillable" guardians in d2, stop being delusional, the mercy occurrence was just as frequent in d1 as well
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[quote]It's not different whatsoever, what proof do you have it is different? There are no "unkillable" guardians in d2, stop being delusional, the mercy occurrence was just as frequent in d1 as well[/quote] Bungie said on that TWAB I showed you that there are unkillable guardians when 1v1. It’s right there on that TWAB, Bungie said it themselves. And yet you keep saying I’m the one that’s delusional. Did you read it or are you the one that’s delusional? They also said because of that, the occurrence of Mercies is frequent. It’s all right there on that TWAB. Bungie said it themselves. Read it again, so that nobody would call you delusional.🤣
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[quote][quote]It's not different whatsoever, what proof do you have it is different? There are no "unkillable" guardians in d2, stop being delusional, the mercy occurrence was just as frequent in d1 as well[/quote] Bungie said on that TWAB I showed you that there are unkillable guardians when 1v1. It’s right there on that TWAB, Bungie said it themselves. And yet you keep saying I’m the one that’s delusional. Did you read it or are you the one that’s delusional?[/quote]Where does it say this? I went through the entire thing and haven't seen it once. You aren't seriously claiming there are guardians who are unkillable right? Right!? [quote]They also said because of that, the occurrence of Mercies is frequent. It’s all right there on that TWAB. Bungie said it themselves. Read it again, so that nobody would call you delusional.🤣[/quote] No they haven't, they mentioned the mercy rate (which is no different from d1 as I keep saying) but did not attribute it to "unkillable" players.
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[quote]Where does it say this? I went through the entire thing and haven't seen it once. You aren't seriously claiming there are guardians who are unkillable right? Right!?[/quote] Bungie said this below: [i][b]“Once you get to a difference of 600 there is basically zero chance for the lower-skilled player to ever win a 1v1 conflict.”[/b][/i] ^That’s from the TWAB word for word. Bungie said that publicly. Zero chance! Zero chance for lower skilled players to win a 1v1 conflict against a sweat over 600 skill level. That’s basically unkillable. Zero percent chance! If the sweat play according to his level of over 600, the lower player has zero chance to kill him. Zero! The only way that same lower skilled player under 600 can kill a sweat over 600 level is for the sweat to stand still and do nothing. Do you wanna do that? Do you think highe level sweets over 600 would just stand still and get wacked by a low level noob? Ha! The only way they can be killed is if they stand still. Unkillable! Just like Superman without Kryptonite. [quote]No they haven't, they mentioned the mercy rate (which is no different from d1 as I keep saying) but did not attribute it to "unkillable" players.[/quote] Bungie also said this below: [i][b]“These wide variances in skill also lead to more mercy games than you would expect. For example, Control:“[/b][/i] ^This is also from the the same TWAB. They didn’t say anything about D1 or mercy experience from D1. But they sure do acknowledges that mercies in D2 CBMM are more than expected. More than expected in comparison to what, I wonder?
