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Editado por dead fighter 3:
10/1/2020 7:12:13 PM
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Honestly 600's are the only issue and thats mainly if they have Dynamic Sway. My beef being more with the perk than the guns since you know... conplete removal of Bloom. But HC's are pretty toxic at the moment as well with 150's being the aim assist tool that all streamers orgasm over.
Most of the issues comes down to lack of bloom, recoil, or aggressive bullet magnetism.
Though its not impossible to counter. Play smart with your team and try using Bows or other high damage output weapons. Don't get in a boxing match though as your very easily gonna lose a gun fight. Dip in, get a hit and dip out and recover health, maybe throw a nade on the corner so they can't come around prefiring their Suros or Gnawing Hunger. Either play very long range or get in their face before they fire. If your charging at them or they start shooting and you don't have cover than your likely to die.
Im not gonna judge you for hating the meta, because all metas in my eyes are kinda cancer since people are so easily to conform and copy paste off of streamers and pros.
Now if you were fighting nothing but Revoker/Mountaintop hell than I'd be willing to agree since there is nothing to defend those cheap crutch weapons.
Beyond that its less issues with the weapons and more the situation and the backstage mechanics.
It sounds like you just had a very rough couple of games and needed to vent. So im not gonna really judge you or hop on your rough time like the rest of the Forum Vultures. I would reccomend if you want to vent though do it with some friends or just take a break from the game for like half an hour or more. Trust me it helps to just say screw it and go play something else since it gets rid of the tension and frustration with the poor sandbox management.
Like your title says. Your tired and frustrated. Best bet is to just take a break from PvP, maybe take the chance to raid or play another game. Not like much is going on for awhile anyway what is there to do? Festival of the Cost? Lol
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No i do go on streaks but it irritates the crap outa me when i see nothing but 600 rpm in lobbies and that is all you see these days. 150 hcs are only a problem because of the high aim assist on a few of them. Dire promise, and the gambit one both have ridiculous aim assist. Hence why they are being overused because its basically free headshots. I personally liked the ace of spades but it got nerfed range wise. Ace used to be really good but they nerfed it because of pc players. And yes all i do is bows these days , i always ran scouts , hcs and bows im not a fan of autos and pulses. Im just saying 600s are a bit too lethal. I saw a post that they will be reigning them back in. I dont want them to get nerfed because i know alot of people loves autos. Just balance everything else to be on even footing with autos. High impact pulses , hcs, autos and scouts need some love. I hate this random rotating meta. Give us a good sandbox balance and most problems will be solved but i know luke smith loves the rotate the meta. Its part of his philosophy, he thinks it keeps things fresh but it only frustrates people. Thos who love metas gravitate to the new meta and they enjoy it.
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Editado por dead fighter 3: 10/2/2020 1:17:27 AMYeah I see your point and thats why I said I can tell your just tired of the bs and wanting to vent. Trust me I know how horrible it is fighting them. Its also not helpful that Gnawing Hunger is the easiest to farm and easiest 600 to use besides Suros. My friend that I play with got sick of seeing it so he wanted to jokingly see what the fuss about. Now this is a guy who religiously uses a Bow Shotgun combo so he decided for shits and giggles when we were fighting a 3 stack of 600 rpms that he would use one. He proceeded to kill all 3 of those players effortlessly. Now the only Autos I will let myself use are Cerberus and Sweet Business. Cerberus is actually pretty effective as a counter to Last Word warriors, but I digress. The fact he could pick up that weapon for the first time with and pretty decent amount of experience with PvP but no experience with autos and just train wreck people goes to show how stupidly easy it is to learn and use these weapon. At least with previous Meta's you had to learn how to use the weapons that were considered broken and get good with them. Plus with the auto buff I was expecting more of a rise in the usage of 360's and 720's. Not... this Like I said its rough, and its its understandable to vent, sadly alot of people on the forums are either toxic vultures, or just to tired and used to the bs to give a shit anymore. To most veterans its just whatever comes along and to watch Streamer A talk about a certain weapon and wondering if Streamer B will be toxic and tell everyone they HAVE to use it. Personally I try to stay away from meta gear. I use Lonesome and Eriana's. The closet thing to meta I use is probably my class which is Icarus Dash Dawnblade and only because it has the best passive game which at least gives me a slight chance against Hunters using two certain exotics.
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Agreed, i stay away from metas too i hate metas. Probably the only meta i enjoyed and took part in was luna's howl. In d1 when we had the thorn meta i was using suros and mida b4 they were even considered metas to counter thorn. I know they will be adjusting autos for beyond light i just hope they dont nerf em into the ground. Bungie only knows two adjustments nerfed into oblivion and op to meta.
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Really the only thing they really need to tweak is just the bloom/recoil (or the lack thereof) on 600 RPMs and maybe a slight range decrease depending on how hard theybhit bloom/recoil. They kinda just need to give 600s the Hard Light treatment. Don't kill it, but don't make it a laser beam. We have those. And they already have more recoil than 600s lol.
