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10/19/2019 12:24:26 PM
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This matchmaking is the worse in the history of destiny by far. How could you get it so wrong? Start matching by glory please. At least that way, we can count on having some competent teammates. I am really trying here but I can't carry 2 people with sub 100 glory and virtually no comp experience against people that have 1000+ games in comp and are in mythic or legend. Your attempts at team balancing are terrible. Please just revert back to glory based matchmaking. This coupled with the solo playlist would be such an improvement over this terrible system you have in place.
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Wat een KUT zooi, alleen maar tegenstanders met alle pinnacle wapens tegenover me. Kut ontwikkelaar
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Matching by Glory won't do anything. There are a ton of people in Mythic who are average at best.
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This is true but it is more pronounced this season. Have 1500+ games solo in comp and have never seen the kind of disparity in skill that I have this season. Looking at your stats, you would have had to carry almost everyone game if you have been playing freelance.
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It was easier than last time I hit Legend but I assumed it was just easier for everyone, especially since good players get out of the lower brackets faster thanks to the new Glory system. Matching via Glory doesn't work because there's still a huge skill disparity and matching via skill doesn't work because then you're facing the same caliber of players from start to finish which defeats the entire point of the "climb" to Legend. [spoiler]Honestly I hope they keep it how it is now because now with only one more Legend rank to go I'm definitely going to go for Unbroken. Wasn't planning on it before with me mainly being a solo player. [/spoiler]
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You could definitely go for unbroken with the freelance playlist even if the matchmaking was glory based. I went up to 4300 solo last season and finished the grind to legend with a team. Had there been a freelance playlist, I'm confident I could have reached legend solo as the only major deterrent were the coordinated teams and I'm not that good of a player.
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i always find myself against a 3 stack of unbroken players. it's not easy going in solo because bungie seems to enjoy matching solos against squads
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I am currently on a 4-lose streak in Freelance Survival. Destiny Tracker flawlessly predicted that I was going to lose 3 of those 4 games by an 80%. I can't believe Bungie can't do the same thing and put some work into team balancing. Their system is so amateurish, it seems they don't give a damn anymore and they just pass these chores down to a bunch of interns.
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No, that was the worst. They should be using Destiny tracker type stats
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Editado por ALBOBOSS: 10/26/2019 4:41:18 PMI'd be fine with sbmm if there were actual rankings. It would not be a ranked system anymore if anybody would be able to reach legend with some level of grind. Perhaps they can have a multi tiered system where one would play comp in different skill brackets such as bronze, silver, gold, platinum etc. and as you progress in skill and face stronger opponents, you can climb the brackets until you no longer can. Obviously most people would not be able to reach platinum or diamond etc, so rewards can be quest based, like revoker or randy and higher tiers can be differentiated by emblems or ornaments.
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This sums up my matches. But I think that's the fault of me being good but not great. Team mates can't pull there own weight, enemy's have former legends, 1 at least every match.
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Yep, same boat as you. I have honestly never complained before when matchmaking was glory based because if I lose its my fault or an occurrence of bad teammates but this skill based matchmaking or team skill based match making feels rigged to generate a predetermined outcome.
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I couldn’t disagree more. Matching by glory is what led Bungie to determine there needed to be a change in the first place - because pretending that glory equates to skill or talent is a laughable idea. Not saying it’s great now (although I believe it’s better than its ever been which isn’t saying much) but going back to a BS system because the current one is thought to be BS is just silly.
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[quote]I couldn’t disagree more. Matching by glory is what led Bungie to determine there needed to be a change in the first place - because pretending that glory equates to skill or talent is a laughable idea. Not saying it’s great now (although I believe it’s better than its ever been which isn’t saying much) but going back to a BS system because the current one is thought to be BS is just silly.[/quote] Did you come to this conclusion from the 30 games that you have played in comp? Bungie made the change because people were crying that guns were "locked" behind comp as per usual. And people were right to a degree, as Recluse and mountaintop were better in pve than pvp. To remedy this, they could have just made them into quests, like Randy's ore revoker, not butcher comp as they did. Now we have an idiotic system where we are matched based on overall team skill, however that is measured. You can be destroying the enemy team and it won't matter if your team is feeding them lives. Have had matches in mythic 3 where my teammates have sub 1000 glory and less than 100 games played in comp and were destroyed as a result. 2 things wrong here, lack of experience and a lack of stakes. Experience is self explanatory; as for stakes, it's about how invested people are in the game. If both my teammates were at 5000+ at that point like myself, chances are that they would have fought harder instead of abandoning the game. And glroy is a pretty good indication of skill. I have played solo in mythic in multiple seasons and have never encountered this wide variance in skill. Why? Because to get there, you had to be somewhat decent. The game did not hold your hand matching in whatever Bungies definition of team balance is. You would only progress by overcoming the opposition, no matter their skill. And if you couldn't, you would gradually level in your glory bracket.
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Glory is not a good way to judge skill do you know how many unbroken not forgotten players have cheesed through comp..? Heres the first problem dont get it in you're head that you're gonna lose the match based off of weapons or titles that's a big problem here... oh -blam!- 3 stack with nf and an unbroken.... oh man were -blam!-ed boys.... that mentality going into a game of course you're gonna lose. You've psyched yourself out and anytime you die to something we use it to justify our og thought that hes got a gun and a title.
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The people that cheese comp don't stick around and keep playing in the playlist so they can get destroyed. They'll do their cheating/win trading, get to legend/unbroken and move on. I have over 1500 games solo in comp throughout the seasons and out of those, about 500-600 are in mythic. I don't care if people have NF equiped as I have won many games against legend teams. I know a lot of people get psyched out though like you say and many even leave the game without trying which is ridiculous.
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Ok how about I agree with him about comp and across ps4 xbox and PC I've played well over 3000 comp matches. The system is actually great been up to 5500 already... honestly what do you guys expect at the top tier of a competitive mode. Do you believe that if your that high you won't be playing decent players?
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In a solo sense, glory definitely equates to skill. Youre not going to get 4k+ glory with the old system going in solo by being trash. But otherwise yes because people can be carried.
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What happens when you reset? Does this change the logic?
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No resets in glory, just Valor.
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Glory resets at the new season, correct? So anyone who was max'd in the last season will have a low score if they just picked up today, right? Or am I missing something?
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Previous system yes, until they climbed the ranks. This season, it doesn't match you based on glory so it doesn't matter.
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Then the skill pool is as wide and open as can be and its RNG for the first few games. Still 100 times easier than at 4k+ because its not likely youll be getting sweat on when everybody is playing.
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few people at 4K+ are solo. And yes, the few that are are very good. But the amount of sub 1kd players running around with NF is proof enough that glory doesn’t begin to equate with skill. It just means you have good friends willing to carry (Or a pocketbook deep enough to pay for one).
