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9/22/2019 4:28:19 PM
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Why do people think getting 2100 is so hard i got it in 1 afternoon on my own. Seems like the type of people who complain about not being able to get it are the ones who have a lifetime total of 2 comp matches completed and refuse to try to get better.
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  • Because matchmaking can fck you over extremely hard and ruin your chances.

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  • Yea matchmaking can be shitty but the people who actually end up getting the pinnacle weapons are the ones who deal with the bad teammates and keep trying. You don't get better unless you play more and you cant play more without loosing, getting bad teammates, facing 4 stacks etc its just part of the game you just got to deal with it like everyone else who ever got it or just don't complain about not putting in the time to get it.

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  • My point moreso being that getting to fabled isn't always easy because of that reason. I once went on a 3-22 streak after being 1 win from heroic 3 because matchmaking kept putting me against top tier players (like players that should easily be well above fabled) with lower tiered players on my team (how did you even make it out of brave level). That garbage shouldn't happen. Also, you can't say why do people think it's hard and then say well you need to put in the work. If people need to put in the work, then it is hard. Personally, i think that needing to put in the work is a fine reason for it to be hard. But having it be hard because matchmaking is terrible is not a reason for it to be hard. The new changes coming with shadowkeep should make comp much better though.

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  • The average player will never get there, it's just quite possibly that you are above average at crucible.

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  • yet the op says he's utter garbage at PvP and he's done it? 😂

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  • And he’s lying, A: About being solo - he had clan teammates (2-3) & B: He got 20+ kills in his last 3 consecutive Comp matches

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  • exactly. someone tell dredgen truth ffs. 😂

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  • Yeah. That's why it's such a big deal.

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  • you said the average player won t get there. but he did. so.. ... anyway. he was lying about his skills anyway 😂

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  • Editado por Dredgen Truth: 9/22/2019 7:54:40 PM
    The average player [i]can[/i] get there, they just won't. Obviously, in this case, despite being someone who hates crucible, he was able to do it, meaning.... he isn't average. And, another thing, if you're using some outside site to try and track someones skill, numbers will never account for actual skill. Anyone who actually [i]is[/i] skilled at the game would know that.

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  • [quote], if you're using some outside site to try and track someones skill, numbers will never account for actual skill. Anyone who actually [i]is[/i] skilled at the game would know that.[/quote] This part of your statement is pretty weak. While yes, numbers aren’t skill, it’s pretty fuc|<ing close. If your kda is less than .5 you are a trash player (myself included). If you have over a 1.5, you’re a very solid player. In between, there is a spectrum and it’s fairly reliable. You thinking it’s not indicative of skill is cute. No, somebody running 1.2 isn’t necessarily worse than somebody running a 1.3. But nobody with a .5 is going to regularly have any impact on a match other than to drag his team down and it’ll be rare that somebody with a 1.8 is anything other than a higher end contributor.

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  • It very heavily depends on the scenario. There are people who don't have lots of hours logged in the crucible, in which doing quests would severely hurt their kd, making it not really account, and there are people who have been consistently playing crucible since day 1, where their kd would be mostly unaffected by things like that. Along with that, there are also people who have their kd skewed in their favor because they either a: statfarm, or b: haven't played enough crucible for their bad matches to outweigh their good ones yet. KD can be used as a judge if no exceptions apply, but there are A LOT of exceptions. Hell, even just playing the game to improve is one such exception, there are people who have low KD's but consistently pull 2-3 times that in every match, but they just spent so much time getting better that their play doesn't make a dent in their stats.

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  • if doing quests makes your kd go down you havent played crucible enough to consider yourself good in any way.

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  • In most cases this is true, but there are smurf accounts out there, and there are also people who spend most of their time in the crucible doing said quests, to the extent where they might have enough practice to be considered decent, but the fact that most of their practice came from doing quests that bring down their kd hurts them.

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  • The average player can easily get there with a bit of effort, but people quit pretty quick after loosing a couple games. You aren't just instantly gonna be good at crucible also, people who are good at crucible put time into getting there. A majority of people who i see complaining about how they cant get recluse have less than 10-15 competitive games completed in their lifetime and it just confuses me. I mostly play pvp i tend to stay away from pve unless its for a quest for a weapon im trying to get for crucible etc, you dont see crucible players complaining cause they cant get raid exotics or raid loot but you see pve players complaining that they cant get competitive pvp weapons.

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  • I didn't. someone else did. The stats showed he was better, much better, than what he made out!! -blam!- me your hard work 😂

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  • How did the stats show that? K/D? ELO? Do you even know? If not, don't take what other people say at face value.

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  • Editado por (Invalid user): 9/22/2019 8:10:46 PM
    read the god damn thread. 😂 you've taken what the op said at face value. if he says he's crap at PvP and his KD is 3.5 then he's lying. if you suck your KD would be like .8 or some shit.

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  • I have. I have read the thread. But you're the one making a point. It's not my job to make your point for you. There was someone who talked about K/D, which, again, does not equate to skill. No number can accurately show skill. I asked what you were talking about because there isn't really an argument if you aren't making your argument, is there?

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  • as others have said, you can get a pretty good idea of how good someone is by their KD. He was lying about his skill set. end of. notice he hasn't commented again in the matter. You started by saying an average player can't do it then ten mins after you said they could. your bonkers.

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  • Never said they can't. Said they wouldn't. Big distinction.

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  • oh -blam!- off. now you're back tracking. man, your hard work.

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  • Find me where I said they can't. Please. I'd love to see you try. And again, I have also stated why K/D, despite being a good judge, can never truly be trusted. And YOU, still, have not shown that you have an accurate enough understanding of the stats to actually make your claim. If you can do that then I will agree with you, but it's your job to prove your claim.

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  • so you can't go by stats but if someone gets the recluse their better than average. you've basically said that. which is bollocks. I've won trials matches and I'm crap.at PvP. my team mates however were very good. you can also pay for weapons and raid clears on eBay. you said an average player will never do it. you didn't mean will never get the recluse? cos that's exactly how it sounded.

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  • If I worded my claims poorly then that is on me, I meant to be alluding to the actual player numbers. On average, most players are below fabled. If you don't think that you're all that good at pvp, then going fabled seems like an extreme task from that alone, so most people will quit before getting there despite being completely able to get to fabled. Average players, who CAN get to fabled, never will. Fabled is above the average comp rank because of that.

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