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publicado originalmente en: Jötunn doesn't need a nerf
4/2/2019 8:05:00 PM
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Sad how people forget they can...MOVE.
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  • Doesn't stop anything. People can counter their movement you know. I know someone so good at the game he literally refuses to use Jotunn because it's so easy to get a kill with it it makes the game too easy.

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  • Taking a few sidesteps will cause it to miss. The tracking isn’t that great as tracking is oversll bad in Destiny.

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  • Can't dodge if you don't know it's coming. It tracks from literally any range of every crucible match. If you can see them it will track them. This is objectively true. It doesn't matter if you can dodge. It's ability is too much to be in Special slot. Why is it not even Sleeper Stimulant (Or any linear fusion) will NOT one shot to the body, but the tracking toaster in special will? People who aren't trash know to just surprise people with it and will win easily. Jump up. Come from behind. Anything to prevent them from knowing that shot is incoming (Very easy) A mate of mine got it earlier today. First match of crucible later he ended a control on Midtown with 34 kills. Anyone who is under the delusion that the tracking is bad therefore the gun is easy to counter (It's really not) are just desperate people who refuse to let their OP guns get nerfed so they whine "No, we promise, only we who have the gun absolutely know it's trash so don't listen to whiners and don't nerf it". Tracking was only nerfed on Rocket Launchers. Guns like Skyburners oath for example still track exceptionally well. Same as Colony. Same as Toaster Slag.

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  • Editado por Mnkke: 4/3/2019 9:56:34 PM
    Tracking is nerfed in general. Rockets, Dawnblade are the top two are the worst. And Jotunn, oh no. Someone killed you when they did rare you. And it is MUCH worse from range. It doesn’t lock onto someone like rockets. It shoots freely and MAYBE will track on to someone if they are far away PS: I don’t have it nor would I use it. I prefer Sole Survivor.

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  • You don't have it but think you know what you're talking about? I've not got on my account, but I used it on somebody else's. You haven't got a clue what you're on about. Using borrowed knowledge doesn't trump first hand experience on both ends of the Toaster. It tracks from literally any range. It doesn't maybe lock on. It guarantee locks on. And if they don't move it will hit. And to prevent them from moving. Get in close. Fire from above like you're using a grenade launcher. It will lock on and kill in 2 seconds from a range of 5-10 metres. But from 30-50 it's tracking ability is still just the same. Same goes for even further at 80-100 metres.

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  • I’ve used it before multiple times on a friends account in gambit and crucible. It wasn’t really that great at range. And in crucible people [i]easily[/i] just side stepped and it missed. And I do that often as well. I do know what I’m talking about

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  • Nah. You clearly don't know how to use it. If you don't know it's coming you cannot know to sidestep. You're not psychic.

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  • And if you don't know someone is about to snipe you, you cannot side step. Same with if you are about to get golden gunned. Or machine gunned. Or Linear Fusioned. That is an incredibly bad argument. So because you do not know it is going to hit you, it is op?

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  • No it's OP because even the unluckiest turd can pick it up and be good with it. You don't have to know how to aim. You only have to know how to look and jump or crouch. What's a bad argument is you not knowing how to use it because you obviously don't know how to play in general. But somehow you make that argument a good one by just speaking and REPEATEDLY stating you can't do good with it. When multiple people. Self-confessed unskilled players said they picked it up and it made them a god. And they're telling the truth. You're blind. Or dumb. If you cannot do good with the toaster.

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  • Lol way to be an asshole. I literally have tested with it. I aimed close to people as they stood still. It hit them from distance even. Then they take a step or two to the side and it flew right past them. And again, your argument is -blam!-. You completely dropped your previous one clearly as I point the flaws in it. And any tard can be good with it? I clearly do not know how to play? Is that why I have gotten Luna's Howl (Solo too) as a Warlock with Storm Trance? Or maybe got Mountain Top solely in Competitive ALSO with a Warlock Stormtrance? Can you show some OP Tracking of it by chance? Lots of people can do good with stuff that are normally bad (not to be rude to those people). Golden Gun is easy to use. So does that mean it needs a nerf? What about Nova Bomb? It is an insta kill and can track. And it does not stop tracking when you take a few steps to the side. According to you, that [i]must[/i] be nerfed. Because stuff that can track and insta kill you when you are unaware is apparently op now. Know what was op? Prometheus Lens. Killed in like .1 second in the Slow ttk days of D2. But guess what? Everyone had fun. Because it was funny. Why can't people be like that again? Oh right, because this community is somehow more hypocritical than -blam!-ing America. And America is VERY hypocritical. I would know. I live here. The community begs for a grind. Then complains about grind. Then abuses the game to make slightly not as bad grind even easier such as loot exploits. They do not want content droughts. Then complain about the content in a ~$11 expansion. Jotunn is not op. As you said, "You're blind. Or Dumb." Sorry that I do not like Jotunn? Sorry that I have other preferences? How about this: You are awful. Or Blind. Or Dumb. Or just suck. If you cannot do good with Luna's. Or some other weapon. Not everyone plays the same buddy. I have been on both ends of Jotunn. It is not op. Only times I have been killed by it is when I am not paying attention, which literally anything can really kill you at that point.

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  • Whole lot of nonsense in that post. Absolutely false inclinations and strawman arguments. You're comparing one-shot supers, to a Special Ammo weapon that gives you ammo on kill and on Respawn, that tracks, is a ONE SHOT SPECIAL WEAPON that is also explosive. And Luna's howl also needs a nerf or other hand cannons need a buff. This is a fact. There is nothing hypocritical. It doesn't matter if people can side step if you yourself don't know how a SHOOTER works. You adjust for their two steps to the left and then they die. If they don't move, the shot will hit them from any range. That's OP range. It has a quicker charge time than Sleeper Stimulant (Which already got heavily nerfed) and Toaster can track to boot. You can adjust for it's "bad" tracking by literally just delaying your shot. So why not make all Linear Fusions Special as well then? They do less damage. Have to be aimed manually too. You call my argument flawed? You literally have to understand the basics of a shooter. And you can be good with Jotunn. Why don't you prove to me it's not difficult, since you made that caim first. But you can't. The gun is a meme at this point because it's that -blam!-ing easy. You got Luna's and Mountaintop by luck. It's not hard to get to 2100 if you solo. It's actually easier than in a stack. Because then you can be unpredictable. And the enemy can't communicate how to counter. And yes. You are a bad if you're talking about preference with a gun like Jotunn. You can hide behind your preference all you want. If you think the gun is not OP then you're just challenged. Simples.

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  • Okay -blam!- face how about stop being an asshole? I really appreciate being called challenged for having a different -blam!-ing opinion. I don’t think it’s OP. Why do you care so much to have to call me challenged about an online persons opinion? My experiences differ from yours. Get over it. I’m -blam!-ing muring you because I’m tired of dealing with you. But one last thing (to end on a good note): Other hand cannons definitely need a buff. Maybe make 180s damage drop more steep?

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  • What I'm stating is not an opinion. It is a verifiable fact that a Jotunn is OP.

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