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5/30/2017 1:23:07 AM
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I think there's not really a reason not to believe in God, because if there is a god and you believe in him, great. If there is and you don't, that sucks. If there isn't and you do believe, [i]you lose absolutely nothing[/i]. You lose nothing not believing, but logically it just seems better to believe. You do you though, more power to ya!
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If there isn't one and you do believe, then you have wasted your life doing meanless things like prayer.
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[quote]I think there's not really a reason to believe in God, because if there isn't god and you don't believe in him, great. If there is and you don't believe, you lived a good life. If there isn't and you do believe, [i]you lose an entire life of pleasure[/i]. You lose your entire life not believing, but logically it just seems better to disbelieve. You do you though, more power to ya![/quote]
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There's a whole lot of whacky beliefs you better have to have full insurance, then..
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Essentially lying to yourself to increase chances of survival
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https://youtu.be/NKzqQ-IVxGs [i]ah Pascal's wager [/i]
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Wowzers this guy is not great at forming attacking this concept. Firstly his delineation between Christian, Jewish, and Muslim God is completely wrong. They are all the same monotheistic God, so his proposal, "What if a Muslim or Christian is praying to the wrong God" both of them are praying to the same God. If he didn't know that, maybe he ought to familiarize himself with religion so he can properly attack it. His continuation of it throughout is laughable. Also his understanding of God being jealous is childish. God's first commandment isn't because He is jealous of the idea of another God being more important than He. It's the fact that whenever the Isrealites placed another God (basically idols) before Him, they were ripe to fall. If you do this in your own life, there's a good chance you'll end up falling flat on your face and have to scratch your head to figure out what happened. If you choose to put your job as the highest ideal, and you get fired, there goes your identity, you idea of a stable future, your happiness all blasted out from beneath you. The redemptive part is he does understand that belief is more than just saying something. There are plenty of Christians that say they believe, but act completely counter to someone who believes in the gospel.
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[i]jewa Muslims and Christians serve the same sky daddy slave master....good one....[/i]
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"Sky daddy" is how the Greeks saw Zeus. God isn't a corporeal being and to even utter his name among the Israelites was a crime. The way you think of God is how a 5 year old sees Santa Clause.
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[i]no...the way a 5 year old Santa clause is blind faith...they believe with little evidence....the way i see the sky daddy is based upon logic....there needs to be good evidence for me to believe something....[/i]
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[quote]no...the way a 5 year old Santa clause is blind faith...they believe with little evidence[/quote] That's literally you. I don't know the origins of your conception of God, but it is not through personal exploration. It sounds so -blam!-ing similar to every other Atheist, even calling Him "sky daddy". You sound like the rest of them, you[u] believe [/u]the rest of them. The bullshit about evidence is just your cultist mantra as far as I'm concerned. I can tell the difference between a religious atheist and critically thinking atheist, and bud, you've got more faith in atheism than most church-goers have in Christ. If you would stop constraining God to a body and understand God as a component of the fabric of reality, then you might start moving forward. Maybe the Sikh interpretation can help you out. [quote]There is but one all pervading spirit, and it is called the truth, It exists in all creation , and it has no fear, It does not hate and , it is timeless, universal and self-existent! You will come to know it through seeking knowledge and learning.[/quote]
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[i]oh...I seemed to trigger him...how is not believingin something blind faith?....I sound like people who have some what the same ideas as me? I call your God a sky daddy as that's what you people see it as...you must praise it all the time in hope it saves you from stuff it created...I believe who....atheists? I mean....technically.....I have no beliefs.... I've come to my own conclusions....faith...in....atheism.....what......again....none of this blind faith stuff....I came to the conclusion that there's no God as there's lack of tangible evidence....[/i]
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Editado por CarneAsadaMilk: 5/30/2017 8:04:03 PM[quote][i]oh...I seemed to trigger him...how is not believingin something blind faith?....I sound like people who have some what the same ideas as me? I call your God a sky daddy as that's what you people see it as...you must praise it all the time in hope it saves you from stuff it created...I believe who....atheists? I mean....technically.....I have no beliefs.... I've come to my own conclusions....faith...in....atheism.....what......again....none of this blind faith stuff....I came to the conclusion that there's no God as there's lack of tangible evidence....[/i][/quote] Lo and behold, yes, stupidity is giving obnoxious. And no you don't believe in nothing, that premise is foolish. Unless you are a nihilist, you believe in something and that belief dictates how you interact with the world. If you disagree, it's because you are operating mindlessly, just like those 'blindly faithful' people do. The only place I've heard God called a, 'Sky daddy' or described anything as such is from atheists on the internet. Their ideas are now your ideas, they weren't your original conclusions you've accepted them as yours. You have a lot to learn.
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[i]okay let me reword that...I don't believe in any god....technically yes i believe stuff...but the existence of any god....no....and the whole sky daddy thing I've use for a very long time....have no clue what youre taking about with the YouTube thing....I only watch that for music and the occasional interesting topic[/i]
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I really don't like the "just in case" argument. To me, it completely ignores what a belief is. To believe means to wholeheartedly think that something is true or false. For example, I wholeheartedly think that a deity is a possibility, but I do not think it is any deity that has been conceived in any modern religions. So, this makes me an agnostic atheist. If you "believe" just in case, then do you really believe? No, you're just taking advantage of an afterlife if that after life exists. Plus, if a deity does end up existing, it feels like I'm taking advantage of a deity.
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Yea. This isn't meant to be a persuasive argument for religion. Not when it was first made, at least. This argument is meant to show that belief in God is rational and disbelief irrational. It shows that belief in God has better possible outcomes, therefore choosing to disbelieve goes against your own self interest and is therefore irrational.
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Ok good. Cuz I've heard this question/argument before, and it bugged me a lot for the previously stated reason. "Logically", it makes sense, but that's just not how believing works. It's not a simple switch that can be turned one way or another easily.
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Yea. It doesn't help that it's almost always used as an argument to believe in God. It is completely backwards. Fearing punishment doesn't make a Christian. Accepting that you are deserving of punishment makes a Christian.
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Thank you. It's just being Christian for the wrong reason. If you believe, you should actually think it's true. Not just use it as a failsafe.
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Here's a counter argument. You don't believe in thousands of Gods. Atheists just believe in one less.
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I don't believe in thousands of universe's, why shouldn't I believe in the one I live in right now?
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You don't have to, however you have concrete evidence of it. You see, feel, taste, smell.
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I'm not an strict empiricist, I believe that we are able to use abstract concepts. For example, I don't have concrete evidence of numbers. I can't smell taste or touch the concept of 2. I can see the consequence of the idea of 2 manifest when an object is placed near a another similar object.
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Understandable, but as I said, at the least this universe has visible evidence.
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Does the number 2 have visible evidence? I said i could see the consequence of the abstract concept, but not the number itself. Empirically i can look at one object next to another object and it's simply that. One thing and another one thing.
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But the concept/idea of two does have visible evidence. Similarly, the abstraction of this particular reality has evidence.
