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6/14/2016 12:16:38 AM
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Yeah... they "came through" with this update. And then nerfed something that nobody asked for. Throwing Knives? Seriously? I'm on this forum everyday and NEVER see people complain about throwing knives. And the tripmine thing? My Young Ahamkara's Spine WERE my favorite exotic piece in this game. They're dead to me now.
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They nerfed Knife damage because now kills grant super energy.... Plus cant you combo the instant refill with it? You would get your super back extremely fast.
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No combo, the reset knife and the super energy on kill are both knife perks so unless they add an exotic for it you have to choose one or the other, the best you can get is double knife with super energy. Golden gun perks are accuracy, faster super charge and make people explode when shot by golden gun.
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Right. And i'd have to give up a better melee to get to that perk. It's not worth the trade-off for me and it's not worth wearing Khepri's Sting to make up for the loss. Basically.... Gunslinger is wrecked in my eyes.
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You can't do that because you need to give up knife juggler to get circle of life. Circle of life is the perk that will give super energy.
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I've also never seen somebody moaning about throwing knives (not can I remember being one-shorted by a burning blade to the head with the DoT). I'm alright with Bungie adjusting balance based on more than just player complaints though; whilst it's good for devs to listen to the community, I wouldn't want them to be reactionary to just the loudest shouters. They must do a ton of analysis before making decisions like this.
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Knives will reduce super cool down + perk that reduces cool down + intellect + gg drops BIG ORBS + 4 gg super. Sounds interesting to me.
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Sorry dude. I should have made myself more clear. The buffs to the unused nodes in the skill tree are fine. The nerfs to things which nobody asked for are bullshit. This mostly affects PvP for me. If i have a problem in PvE, i just use a sword. Can't really use swords in PvP.. I'm not a nerf caller. I'm a problem solver. I'll solve this problem and work it out, but i think its an uncalled for problem and i think that the developers are crazy to let Tripmines be the way the were for almost two years and then say "Whoops! we didn't mean for them to do that!" It's amateur hour over at Bungie right now.
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I can see what your saying about the timing of it.
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I was also sort of confused about the tripmine nerf, since I've never aeen anyone complaining about being stuck by them. I've seen damage complaints, but that's it. And throwing knives? That came out of left field somewhere....oh well. RIP rocket boots/party hats. I didn't rely on them for stickies anyway, they'll still be fun to use :)
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i only relied on them as stickies when the situation presented itself. I used them as traps all the time already. It was their stick capability that made them worth using, though because a trap doesn't always get someone and you are capable of killing yourself with them more than any other grenade. The trade-offs were fair. Now, they're not.
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It's mind boggling because trip mines got nerfed, that they can't stick when in reality I'm pretty sure a mine will blow up in whoever you throw it at. Not to mention that sticky grenades which have millions of tracking didn't get touched one bit
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Tripmines are still useful, if anything they're still my go to. The double nade/knife combo won't be affected at all
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The nerf hasn't been applied yet. how can you know if they are useful? I guess i don't know "for sure" that they will be useless, but I STUCK PEOPLE WITH THEM ALL THE TIME! I have more grenade kills than sniper rifle kills in Crucible, by a lot. It's the way i like to play. I'm getting close and even if i die, i'm taking you down with me. now.... i guess i'll just what, start sniping? nah. I'd stop playing before i went that boring route.
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You see, that's exactly why they were nerfed. Just like blink was so long ago. It might be been your playstyle to play a certain way, but that way is annoying and often feels unfair and dumb. Just look at it from a non-hunter point of view. It was quite annoying.
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See but the thing about tripmines is that probably 75% of tripmines sticks ended up being a trade because it would blow up the hunter too. When a warlock or a titan comes around a corner and just sticks you with a fusion, I hate these things passionately they assist so much it's ridiculous, they're never even considering it blowing them up too, they're just laughing and moving on. So if hunters sticking people with a grenade that could take out too is unfair then what are fusions?
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Editado por TheBeejAbides: 6/14/2016 12:53:51 AMdude, seriously? I never complained once about Warlocks. I thought the Hammers nerf was atrocious. I don't complain about the other subclasses being different than the one i'm running. I never bitched about wombo combo, touch/viking, stormcaller being OP.... AND NEWS FLASH: Hunters kill me all the time in the crucible. I have almost 50,000 deaths in crucible. I'm not afraid to die. Its all these sissy nerf callers that are afraid to die.
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Editado por Banana_man_777: 6/14/2016 1:01:24 AMWell then that's probably rather...I don't know...I would say honorable, but also a bit foolish? Not complaining doesn't make sense. Thats how changes are made, by voicing opinions, hopefully in a constructive manner. Also you must be new (relatively). Blink-shotty combo was clearly an overpowered strategy, and while tripmines aren't near that level of overpowered, it's currently a time of weaker guns, etc. Lastly, if sticky grenades alone defines your playstyle (as you so demand it is), switch over to the Bladedancer with their Flux grenade or dab in other classes for a bit. Edit: this debate also has nothing to do with anyone being afraid to die or anything. It's about balance, fairness, and perceived fairness.
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I complain about the only thing that bothers me: LAG. And dude, i've played more than 4000 hours in this game. I've used ALL of the subclasses pretty extensively. And i still do and still will. But when the best feature from your favorite subclass gets wrecked, you FEEL SOMETHING. I won't apologize for that. I won't apologize for being passionate. Literally the funnest thing in this game for me was sticking someone with a trip mine from across the map. it wasn't easy. I perfected that skill. You can't do that with a flux grenade, bro. You just can't.
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Tripmines are still powerful just not sticky nades, and they buffed swarm nades too we don't even now how they'll work
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Swarm grenades aren't fun to use, though. It's not about "balance"...... it's about FUN. This game will never be balanced and i think it's funny as hell when they try to do it.
