Truth is college graduates experience the same unemployment rate as non-graduates yet have thousands of dollars worth of debt, which would be all well and good if the college graduates actually got jobs in their fields. Instead they end up working at Starbucks or McDonald's anyway.
I don't feel like looking up the stats right now, but I'm not lying.
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Because it's easy to become an engineer without a degree.
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It obviously depends on what you majored in. If you majored in human resources, you obviously are going to have a much harder time finding a job than someone who majored in medicine.
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Should I point out how false this is, or keep quiet?
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No no, please. I would love to see your evidence for this being false.
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Editado por Atomic Tea: 5/16/2013 5:35:17 PM"Depends on what you majored in" is such a cop out answer. If you major in a anthropological field, all kinds of businesses look for that background in cultural knowledge. Marketing and construction are some of the more bizarre choices you'd never expect. Medical school in the United States is infamously competitive. Now more than ever, really with the influx of students looking to pursue a nursing degree. And when you get that nice medical degree in nursing, OBGYN, pediatrics, etc etc.... good luck finding a clinic or hospital who will hire you, who has very little on-floor experience. Hospitals require a high-level of quality in all its staff, and you only get that level of quality after years on the floor. It's also going to vary from state to state. Some states are facing a shortage while some are not. What if you're registered in a state that doesn't really need you? It's not impossible, but it's very competitive. And saying "obviously if you get a degree in medicine you'll find a job" is really ignorant.
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Editado por Uncle Putin: 5/16/2013 9:08:32 PM[quote]It's not impossible, but it's very competitive. And saying "obviously if you get a degree in medicine you'll find a job" is really ignorant. [/quote] Too bad I never said that. I said it will be easier for a nurse to find a job than someone who gets a completely useless degree. Plus, other degrees like electrical engineering and computer science are in great need right now, so you can't honestly think that the majority of graduates can't find jobs, because most of them do. That article I linked shows you that only 3.9 percent of college graduates are currently unemployed. That's a remarkable number compared to the 7.5 percent unemployed national average. [url=http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS14027660]This shows you another graph[/url] of the percent of high school graduates with no college who don't have a job. That number is almost perfectly in line with the national average, 7.5 percent. Those figures above are for people aged 25 and over. If you look at a younger generation, you find that people under 25 have an [url=http://www.campusexplorer.com/college-advice-tips/1FDB725F/Unemployment-Rates-are-Lower-Among-College-Graduates/]unemployment rate of 24.5 percent for high school diplomas and 8 percent for college graduates.[/url] [url=http://www.bls.gov/news.release/hsgec.nr0.htm]Another source, this one from the government.[/url] Scroll down to the middle of the page, and it says this: [quote]The unemployment rate for recent high school graduates not enrolled in school was 34.4 percent, compared with 17.7 percent for recent graduates enrolled in college.[/quote] Still think I'm wrong?
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Editado por Atomic Tea: 5/16/2013 9:34:46 PMYou missed my point. " If you majored in human resources, you obviously are going to have a much harder time finding a job than someone who majored in medicine." By following another link within the link you provided, it shows the 25 fastest growing industries. [url=http://www.campusexplorer.com/college-advice-tips/65BD38D8/Top-25-Fastest-Growing-Industries/] Human Resources ranks among the top.[/url] I was taking an issue against that statement, not about employment figures for college vs high school graduates. I was also commenting on how you worded your comment. It seems like you think that if you pursue a medical degree versus some other type of college degree, you'll have an easier time finding a job. I don't think that's entirely true.
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Editado por Uncle Putin: 5/17/2013 2:06:34 AMOh okay. 'Tis nothing more than a misunderstanding. In that case, my third post should be aimed towards Clint Beastwood. I wasn't trying to make any statement about medicine, I was just trying to contrast two different majors with each other. Maybe I should have compared art history with medicine. Or replace art history with whatever useless degree there is and compare it to a high-demand degree.
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Biased statistics. The percentage of high salary careers is dominated by people with college degrees.
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My Uncle is went to college got a medical assistant certification, didn't have a job since graduating 6 months ago till last week when he got a minimum wage job at the PDX airport. His fiance is a dental assistant who works at Macys. There is truth to what Clint Beastwood said.
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Well, duh, but in this day and age it might be better to skip college or put it off for a bit as it might be easier to save money when you don't owe 100K.
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Well, if you can't afford it you can't afford it, but those stats imply that college degrees aren't important.
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My sister just got a BS in neuroscience and is going for a PhD. Surprise! She got a really good job.