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publicado originalmente en: I'm sick of this ever verse crapp
9/25/2019 2:39:32 PM
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[quote]All the stuff we get in the main game looks like garbage. Everything that's cool that looks cool anyway comes in ever verse. There's no way to play the game to get the things that you want to look cool you have to wait for them to come up in the ever verse store. I know I'm beating a Dead Horse with this but it's really old and tiresome. I used to play this game to build my dude and look cool and I would drop 5 to 10 bucks here and there on silver. But now I feel like I have to drop 5 to 10 bucks in a word to look cool which is completely ridiculous. I haven't spent anything on every verse since they introduced this new weird system and I barely spend anything before that. It would be nice just to be able to play the game and get the stuff that I want through playing the game versus having to buy it. The whole thing just seems really greedy to me.[/quote] Play Borderlands 3. It has a Cosmetic Vanity Store but it’s all in Game. Can’t buy Eridium with real money, you can’t buy Cosmetics with real money etc. it’s how games like Destiny SHOULD be but isn’t due to greed. I spent $180 bucks on D2 thus far and all of Eververse Items should be complimentary for that $180 bucks not an additional cost. If Destiny was going Free to Play like Warframe, rather then Free to Enter, then it would be a different story and Eververse wouldn’t bother me.
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  • Editado por Stives09: 9/26/2019 7:50:10 PM
    Yeah. Since we're asking destiny to be more like Bl3, Then they can reduce the bank to 20 spaces and ask you to purchase upgrades to bring it to 50, remove avenues to guaranteed purples/powerfuls/golds, remove infusion (but cores are a problem because they're [very debatably] marginally too expensive, right?), remove masterworks, remove mods, remove armor, reduce the postmaster to 5 items with the option to buy 5 more slots. Sounds like a much better game, no? You must believe that sounds better. To be clear, I'm playing and loving borderlands 3. I'm already out of stuff to do but I'm not dumb enough to jump on my pedestal and start shouting "TrAaShH" because of that. I like the game and don't actually think it's bad. I absolutely do believe that there are some things destiny could learn from it, just the way that there are absolutely some things that BL3 could learn from destiny. However, it's amazing how people will judiciously criticize destiny for a thing, but straight up refuse to apply that criticism to any other game. If we're going to nitpick small shit about destiny, and blow that up as if it means that the game I TrAsHhHhH, then do it to every other game as well.

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  • [quote]Yeah. Since we're asking destiny to be more like Bl3, Then they can reduce the bank to 20 spaces and ask you to purchase upgrades to bring it to 50, remove avenues to guaranteed purples/powerfuls/golds, remove infusion (but cores are a problem because they're [very debatably] marginally too expensive, right?), remove masterworks, remove mods, remove armor, reduce the postmaster to 5 items with the option to buy 5 more slots. Sounds like a much better game, no? You must believe that sounds better.[/quote] I’m not talking about Destiny being more like Borderlands in that sense. I’m talking about going in the direction of Borderlands in the sense of... *Not removing Content we Pay for. *Time Gating every Activity, ever piece of Loot and Cosmetic Items and Weaponizing FOMO. *Having no Battle Passes. *having no MTX like they have now and be more like Crazy Earle and get rid of Silver and keep Brightdust as the only currency and unable to buy cosmetics with Silver etc. That’s what I’m talking about. [quote]To be clear, I'm playing and loving borderlands 3. I'm already out of stuff to do but I'm not dumb enough to jump on my pedestal and start shouting "TrAaShH" because of that. I like the game and don't actually think it's bad. I absolutely do believe that there are some things destiny could learn from it, just the way that there are absolutely some things that BL3 could learn from destiny. However, it's amazing how people will judiciously criticize destiny for a thing, but straight up refuse to apply that criticism to any other game. If we're going to nitpick small shit about destiny, and blow that up as if it means that the game I TrAsHhHhH, then do it to every other game as well.[/quote] I highly doubt you’ve run out of things to do. There are 4 Characters to play through the Campaign with and getting them all ready for the DLC coming up. And I’m not saying Destiny is trash, I think it’s awesome as a Looter Shooter, I just think them going the way of World of Warcraft is trash. The whole “had to be there when” is trash cause if leaves people to feel that if they don’t put in Streamer Hours or takes a break from the Game due to life, that they will miss out on a lot story wise and loot wise as well and making the game to be played as a Career/Full Time Job rather then a Game that lets the player play the game on THEIR own schedule, not around the games schedule. Bungie is turning Destiny into a glorified Mobile Game with it’s Time Gates and Monetization System. That’s all I’m saying. I love Destiny in it’s current state and if it was staying this way, I’d stay, but since it’s not, I sadly have to dip and play games that work around me rather them me around it.

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  • Why do people have to make such a huge deal with damn cosmetics

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  • [quote]Why do people have to make such a huge deal with damn cosmetics[/quote] Hmm, I thought looter shooters were about chasing loot in the game, not buying cosmetics and making sure that vendor is the only vendor updated for 2 years.

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  • Eververse obviously takes alot of attention from other things but people act like they're forcing it down our throats. Bungie just showed a few cosmetics that are being released with shadowkeep.. If that's the only thing from that trailer that got your attention, bungie isn't the one to blame. Only thing wrong with eververse is the attention it gets but even that doesn't bother me much anymore.

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  • Editado por TheShadow-cali: 9/26/2019 11:57:26 PM
    [quote]Eververse obviously takes alot of attention from other things but people act like they're forcing it down our throats. Bungie just showed a few cosmetics that are being released with shadowkeep.. If that's the only thing from that trailer that got your attention, bungie isn't the one to blame. Only thing wrong with eververse is the attention it gets but even that doesn't bother me much anymore.[/quote] I disagree that people are taking it as Bungie is forcing it down their throats. I believe that people are tired of Bungie not knowing how to manage their money 12 years later and Bungie literally said they ran out of resources for the in-game content. Creating a variety of loot to chase was replaced by cosmetics using Tess for 2 years now, that is the only vendor out of this entire game that has been well taken care of. There is double if not triple the cosmetics in this entire game vs loot to chase that is worth acquiring. In D1 it was the opposite. No one gives a flying hoot about the stupid cosmetics, they want actual loot added to the loot pool throughout the game to chase as d1 actually has. Edit: Case and point on how much most don't care for cosmetics? D2 base game lost 80% of its player base because of that in the first 2 months.

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  • That isn't the only reason why lol. Year 1 was just complete shit until warmind came out. After about a month or two you literally had everything and no need to get another role of that weapon or armor piece. Once you have everything there's almost no reason to continue to play it. You are correct about most of the eververse stuff besides that one thing. It isn't going to change though, community has been complaining for awhile and bungie actually needs the money now.

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  • [quote]That isn't the only reason why lol. Year 1 was just complete shit until warmind came out. After about a month or two you literally had everything and no need to get another role of that weapon or armor piece. Once you have everything there's almost no reason to continue to play it. You are correct about most of the eververse stuff besides that one thing. It isn't going to change though, community has been complaining for awhile and bungie actually needs the money now.[/quote] You just agreed with everything I said. But one thing I disagree with, if Bungie knew how to manage the money that they made through... Their store in the last 5 years with both games Eververse that is in both D1/D2 Pre-orders that are up to $400+ a bundle Rockstar, refer a friend, boost packs, etc..... through both games among other things? If Bungie made quality content with everything I said above the player base would be a hell of a lot bigger than it is now that they wouldn't "need" that money as you said, but that isn't the case is it?

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  • You didn't mention that they no longer have Activision. That's the reason why I said they need it. Less people making content that needs to be better.

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  • [quote]You didn't mention that they no longer have Activision. That's the reason why I said they need it. Less people making content that needs to be better.[/quote] They didn't have anyone for D1 and look how that turned out? A hell of a lot better then D2

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  • That's true. Although d1 didn't have annual passes. They gotta make more content now because of them. That content can be better though

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  • [quote]That's true. Although d1 didn't have annual passes. They gotta make more content now because of them. That content can be better though[/quote] IMO it's not about how many employees you have, it's about how many of them are actually willing to put that effort into creating whatever game. Having extra content like the Annual Pass wasn't the issue, the issue was that there wasn't really any actual loot worth chasing nor enough of it vs cosmetics.

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  • How can everyone be so ignorant??? The company that makes borderlands can afford to do that because they make money from other titles! All bungie has is destiny! They have to make money somehow!!! Let me guess you guys just want to pay $60 three years ago and keep having new content shoved down your throats every month for free???? This -blam- is not cheap to make!?!??

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  • This "poor Bungie needs to make money" doesn't work anymore so why even bother? case and point, they did just fine before Destiny and even in D1 Eververse, wasn't anywhere near as bad as it is now and they actually updated the game like the other vendors ever DLC. Tell me what they have actually updated in 2 years other then Eververse?

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  • YOU IGNORANT LITTLE DEAD MINDED RAT. Warframe does this the last 6-7 years. FREE TO PLAY with content coming out all the time. The only paywall is the High end cosmetics and some of em you can get em by playing too. So stfu and research before you talk. We havent spend only 60 bucks in 3 years because most of us bought all the expansions, But i guess you cant fix stupid or greed

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  • Dude I played Warframe and made tons of money (can't remember currency name) from people who spent real money in the game. Warframe is technically "free to play" but unless you want your upgrades to take forever you either A) take advantage of ppl who spent real money who want to spend way more than they should on event mods or B) spend money to speed up the progress Warframe is an awful game that I couldnt bear to play for more than a month because the grind is real. Props to the dev team for all the free content but ppl spent a ton of real money to make that happen

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  • [quote]Dude I played Warframe and made tons of money (can't remember currency name) from people who spent real money in the game. Warframe is technically "free to play" but unless you want your upgrades to take forever you either A) take advantage of ppl who spent real money who want to spend way more than they should on event mods or B) spend money to speed up the progress Warframe is an awful game that I couldnt bear to play for more than a month because the grind is real. Props to the dev team for all the free content but ppl spent a ton of real money to make that happen[/quote] It’s called “Platinum “ (currency). As for the Platinum, I’ve noticed it’s actually an interesting take on it.: The company charges money for Platinum Platinum can be used to buy gear outright from the store (time saver method) Platinum can be used to “barter” with other players for rare blueprints especially parts that have been “vaulted” (no longer available). This gives an avenue actually for the heavy grinders to technically make money while still helping out those who missed out on gear or have time constraints (as the game is extremely grind heavy). Mostly (about 90% I’m guessing) you can acquire everything from playing without spending a dime. And for the things you can’t you can earn platinum by farming certain rare items that fetch a decent price.

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  • I think what people want is d1's model back, sure there were content droughts but what we got once it eventually released was great. that's what I would like back. maybe bungie could do with paying 300 employees to make crap for eververse instead of 600.

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  • [quote]Free to Enter[/quote] One of the best summarizations I've saw yet. Bad part is it's "free to play" if you only play pvp and don't want any new pinnacle weapons. PvE players pay for expansions, exotics, pinnacles; and then have Eververse aimed straight at them with ornaments, sparrows, shaders, and ghosts. They should make Eververse a market for pvp stuff since you don't have to pay anything to play pvp, instead of trying to make pve players make up for lost revenue and pay for everyone else.

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  • Good point, even though I'm one of those people who is probably only going to play PvP (as per usual). But I realize that I'm technically contributing to the game in other ways, like being cannonfodder in PvP, a.k.a. keeping PvP population numbers up. ;P [quote][quote]Free to Enter[/quote] One of the best summarizations I've saw yet. Bad part is it's "free to play" if you only play pvp and don't want any new pinnacle weapons. PvE players pay for expansions, exotics, pinnacles; and then have Eververse aimed straight at them with ornaments, sparrows, shaders, and ghosts. They should make Eververse a market for pvp stuff since you don't have to pay anything to play pvp, instead of trying to make pve players make up for lost revenue and pay for everyone else.[/quote]

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  • I would play borderlands 3 but it frames so hard that it’s basically unplayable

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  • Editado por conkus805: 9/25/2019 10:20:43 PM
    it's not unplayable, lol. I play every night and it only stutters every now and then. something wrong with your console

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  • Borderlands 3 is sooooooooo good!

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