If you look at any accurate weapon spreadsheet you’d know there’s plenty of weapons that are more than viable. Luna’s and whatever isn’t the issue, it’s the player not the weapon. If a player is rolling you over and over with Luna’s, chances are they’ll probably roll you with anything. There’s a counter to everything, and quick play is nowhere near sweaty. Play comp for awhile, you’ll appreciate how chill quickplay is 9/10 matches. [spoiler]Telesto doesn’t count, thing is broke.[/spoiler]
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After playing comp all day and getting womped i go into qp and dunk on people with whatever off the wall weapons i feel like using. Its like oh right the crucible can actually be fun. I forgot. Though luna appears more and more each day and shotguns are just complete cancer (skilless noob cannons that one shot in a high ttk game, thanks bungie). Still more fun than the mida/uriels meta ffs.
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This. I run into perfect rolled bygones (which will 2 tap from insane ranges) all the time, and shotgun mains the rest of the time. I usually use my first few deaths to feel out the competition and then pick my areas of the map for engagements. I don't let other players dictate where to engage me, it definitely helps out. With that being said I'm still garbage at Destiny PvP 🤔
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^this. Sometimes I'll switch to malfeasance and twilight oath. I'll get a we ran out of medals with it. There are plenty of guns that are viable. How you as the player can use them is a different story.
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Telesto is the real cancer
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Comp is way more chill now.
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The problem with that argument is that not everyone has Luna’s. Not to mention it has the fastest TTK of any primary weapon currently.
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It also seems to have a ridiculous range. Last night this guy got me with it from right across the map, outgunned my bygones at that range. Nuts.
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Luna’s has a very mediocre range stat of 47, but magnificent howl can counteract that somewhat.
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Editado por MillerTime669: 11/1/2018 6:04:29 AMDuke can 2 tap at .5 seconds. Sturm and drang can 2 tap. Sturm has 1 tap potential. Any pulse with kill klip can 2 burst. All the meta time to kills are within .3 second time to kill of eachother
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Exactly, there’s plenty of weapons that are viable. I think the argument is based off of ease of use and some weapons being very situational like the sturm/drang combo and duke having to have rampage to two tap. And the fact that a majority of people with Luna’s think it’s fun to pubstomp stacked in crucible. I never understood that.
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No I almost never use it in quickplay. And ya the only thing lunas has up on other guns is it's 1v1 potential. But that's what it was designed to do. Some guns actually have potentially shorter times to kill and at farther ranges than it does.
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I’ll use mine wherever, I’ve never been one to be a douche about things though. If I see you make a solid play chances are I’ll probably shoot you some daps in your pm after game. No reason we have to be toxic with each other 24/7
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I have a Clanmate that is very much like that. He will message people to form Fireteams if they not only play well but seem to be “well mannered” , if you will. He also will only run the meta if the opposing team seem to be using/crunching it. For him it means more on a competitive level to outplay people with what he enjoys using not what he “needs” too.
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Oh ya I message people all the time when I see them get sweet plays or pull of some crazy shots.
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I do have Luna’s so I’d like to think I have a little room to talk, and I do understand what you’re saying. But I really think it all comes down to the user.
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Redrix, or any 340rpm pulse has an optimal ttk of 0.67 seconds or .47 seconds if you have desperado active on Redrix. Vigilance wings optimal ttk is 0.77 seconds, .1 slower than Luna’s. Sweet business and suros regime can also hit 0.7-0.8 second ttk. Luna’s has the most consistent 0.67 second ttk, if you can land your shots. Otherwise without magnificent howl the optimal ttk is 1 second (2crit 2body) same as trust and worse than almost every other hand cannon archetype and slower than a majority of the other weapons. I understand your argument/point, but there are weapons that have the potential to be strong against Luna’s/not forgotten, you just have to make them miss one shot and they won’t hit their optimal ttk.
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Then I will fight it with Last Dance, 0.50 TTK :D
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Oh dude, I got one with full auto and dragonfly and it was disgusting 😂 epic shotty counter
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I got one with Kill Clip and Threat Detector. Just last night I won a fight with Luna in close range :D