Yeah, I agree that you need both for balance. It'd be unrealistic and unattainable if it were just one way or the other. I think people just feel as if Bungie is (unnecessarily) nerfing too much and not buffing things that actually [i]need[/i] to be buffed somewhat (I don't explicitly mean primaries here). There's still imbalance in the crucible, and there's been a sort of general consensus (from my experience, across both the forums and reddit) that Bungie just went about this weapons patch in a wry way that didn't exactly improve much. [spoiler]just my opinion~[/spoiler]