Yeah I'm surprised they don't do this really. I never had an online game before destiny, so I never played PVP of any kind even though I got 30 years of playing games..alot of games. Even more so, I never felt the slightest itch to do PVP, not what I do games for, so it was never enough to even consider plugging my deck on line. Anyway, I get destiny, and around level 3 I get a crucible bounty, so I read what it was, test yourself against other guardians blah blah blah. I giggled and said yeah right, how long those dudes been playing this game and these maps? Being a lot older and wiser I knew how that would end. My instant reflex was giving the screen the finger and said yeah right, blow me. (true story, seriously) lol That alone is the biggest reason we got problems with weapon nerfs (aside from bungies stupidity). Bungie gives crucible bounties and weapons bounties to people who never did pvp, so like fools they go in and get destroyed because there is no entry level. As for me, I don't give a rat's ass, I'll never play it, and don't give a flying f*ck about any weapon that would come from it, but for those who are getting their feet wet and want to do it it really don't help tossing them into the mix with seasoned dudes.