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Edited by KiIlworthy: 9/2/2014 12:28:17 AM
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Secrets of the Hive: Origin

You...you might be on to something

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You're...let's just say you're way off

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  • Edited by HighAlpha Wolf: 8/26/2014 6:45:38 PM
    I believe that I saw an image of early concepts of the game in with there were 5 slots for baddies instead of the four that we know. In that case, you may be correct in the Vex modeled after other beings theory. Secondly, I agree that the traveler may have offered its power to each of the species but, as of yet, they turned on the traveler and tried to abuse its power/ harvest its tech for their own use. The Vandals are basically scavengers and pirates, so they would want to scavenge the traveler. The Cabal are war-like and would want to weaponize any new tech they can get their hands on. The Hive might seek the Traveler's power of revival to return themselves to their original states. The VEX might.......... well... maybe they are trying to stop us terminator style from abusing the traveler ourselves like the other species. The Vex may even had been made by species who inhabit the next world that the traveler goes to in attempt to stop humanity from attacking them in an alternate reality or etc.

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  • Damn, another quality video Killworthy!

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  • Its a good vid. And cool comparison. I just wish there was more than just the anatomy. Could be ur on to something. Could be just artistic similarities evolved that way. The fingers and feet tho are pretty intrigueing. Keep it up. When i started the thoery of guardians being dead. Ppl cried heresy. Then beta came. And boom. We are confirmed Zombie Angels it feels good when your validated on a theory.

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  • Here is a theory for you... What if the Traveller is nothing more than an AI in a terraforming ship, sent ahead of a colony ship. But somewhere along the way the colony ship doesn't arrive. Terraforming ship decides to find someone else to help colonise worlds... Traveller finds us... but what if ANOTHER Traveller was out there... a Black Traveller who terraforms the planets the Fallen originally were on... before they became the fallen. The terraforming engine infects the Pre-Fallen and create the Hive... which is why the Hive and the Fallen are fighting... The Hive drove the Fallen from their home planet and then follows them. The Fallen will then hate the Terraforming ships... including our Traveller. The Hive just plain hate everything, being space Zombies after all.

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    • Great Work, Mr. Killworth. Keep it up, hope this motivates you and that you continue to make more content. Your voice is awesome, and so are your theories. I heard in one of your videos that within one week you got 800 subscribers. That's crazy! I can't wait to see what your channel will look like 1 to 2 years from now.

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    • Maybe the traveler gave several of the races its light once and they misused it? Now they are trying to destroy humanity in fear of our capabilities.

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    • Maybe the traveler gave several of the races its light once and they misused it? Now they are trying to destroy humanity in fear of our capabilities.

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      • Edited by Storm Wolf: 8/27/2014 12:54:14 AM
        The point about the vex is interesting I would like to see a video about when they came from. Also when fallen die their souls leave them, so maybe the hive are the husks of the fallen idk maybe they are connected or not.

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      • Did everyone forget that the hive make temples on the moon giant spaceships and all that sortve stuff? I don't think the hive are zombies I think more like the aliens from e movies: alien vs predator and aliens and such. I mean they wernt zombies but they had a queen made structures had classes and so forth "Ty god they didn't make spaceships D:" just like how the predators made the aliens I just think the darkness gave "it's light" to the hive to make them a sentient specious but I don't think they're zombies and I think the two armed fallen are females they're smaller n there body structure couldn't spport two extra limbs and they have a Mohawk I think they're females and the four armed ones are males btw hope this cleared up this whole confusing thing about the hive being zombies

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        • Also if you were on dark side of e moon with no sunlight and the only light source you had was glowing green thingys you would look like a pale ass zombie to btw that's why they look like that

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        • Hmmmm

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        • Hey Killworthy. Watched this video last night. You are quickly becoming the Art Bell of Destiny YouTubers. Keep it up! This is becoming one of my favorite channels! Don't hold back on the theories no matter how "out there" they are.

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        • I do remember that the first thing I thought of when I saw the traveler, was of a terraforming module.. but for what..? I do like the theory of the hive being fallen, and I assume we'll see more hive zombie types.. perhaps we'll even see hive infested guardians...

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          • My theory is that the fallen once had the traveler come to their planet and they had a collapse but instead of being killed off they joined the darkness Forever leaving there home That's why they are siting up places on our other planets and have this rich background of once being a "proud and noble race" Also fallen can be seen working with the queen of the awoken So what if those original awoken teamed up with some of the fallen that didn't wanna help the darkness and just wanted to stay out of the dark and light battle.

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          • I highly doubt that the Fallen and Hive are related in any way. The Fallen do not directly serve the Darkness, for they fight the Hive--and the Hive embrace the Darkness and revere it. The Hive are undead. They are not an infection or biological entity like the Flood from Halo. They are necromancers who have used the power of the Darkness to keep themselves alive for eons--they are directly inspired by fantasy undead. The location of "The Summoning Pits", and the mention in a patrol mission that "space barnacles" are biomass grown by the Hive makes me think they grow corporeal forms from this biomass, which they in turn bind summoned souls of old to. They are an ancient monarchy that has preserved their hierarchy through millennia of undeath. Thralls, Acolytes, Knights, Wizards, Ogres---and perhaps more enemy types we haven't seen. They are a race of liches. Why are they undead? Perhaps they hit a snag in their own evolution when they were truly living, and turned to the Darkness to preserve them as they saw it as the only way to escape extinction. Or, perhaps they were so corrupt and greedy for eternal power when they encountered the Darkness that they simply embraced it. The Fallen on the other hand are completely biological. They don't show any signs of being undead despite their souls escaping from their bodies when killed. They had a grand past which they scarcely cling to; they are now nomadic barbarians that pick apart whatever they find. They assert what's left of their former authority and nobility onto whoever gets in their way, for they have claimed all of our former worlds for themselves. They think they are still entitled to riches and glory, and since they have none left, they resort to forcefully taking it from others. They are divided amongst themselves into five Great Houses. Unlike the Hive, their physiology is different. Their limbs may be similar, but their head shape and eyes are very different from the Hive. The Hive come in all shapes and sizes--the twisted frames of the Thralls, the hunched-over Acolytes, the upright (and tough) Knights, the floating Wizards, and the Giant Ogres. But the Fallen (apart from their servitors) have the same basic shape across their ranks. Also, it's highly likely the Fallen's current nomadic raider behavior is a much more recent development than the Hive's necromancy. I still don't think there are enough similarities, even for them to share a common ancestor. Their origin stories are just too different.

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            • When I First met the hive I was torn between Lord of the rings and Fallen Skies. both of these things I pull from strongly when I try to explain the hive. In fallen Skies I know the aliens are drones of mind control parasites of a controlling race which in time twisted the hosts features into the insect things. which you see in a lot of there enemy types of other races besides the vex since there mechanical. Secondly I have noticed that they are also grown like Orc's in Lord of the rings mostly done by the Wizards who I see are a lot like the Warlocks helmet wise and that only makes sense why they have the epic powers and such. But all I have to say is there has to be another class to the hive one we have not met yet sure they make it look like the wizards are the controlling class but they are also undead, that didn't make any sense to me. maybe a living class within the hive, is controlling them. I mean they have there own ships maybe if we get a mission to raid one maybe we will see this maybe last enemy type of the Hive that may or may not exist.

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            • You're definitely on to something killworthy me I think the hive were all fallen vandals dregs but then they flew to the moon to claim it for themselves but then they got corrupted by the the darkness and became even more evil than they already were thus creating the hive and explaining why their on the moon

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