I think you said it all but want to reiterate….no dedicated servers. That was a bonehead move….

And now the people responsible for vaulting have been vaulted.

[quote]Where to even start with what seems like one of the worst mishandlings of a company over the past 2+years, but really started long ago. I guess the beginning......[/quote] Yes, the beginning. Funny how Luke Smith became the lead for the sequel, and how much this company lied about what work he did. It showed because he almost lost the entire player base shortly after the base game released. Just this alone shows what's wrong with a portion of upper management, and explains why the game is in the poor state it is in. The wrong people got fired, and that means not much has changed when it comes to upper management making the decisions for the game. This means the game is still -blam!- being in the wrong hands. Yes, there might be some improvements, but as usual, minimal at best just to keep the game running. The damage some of the upper management has caused is set in stone. What should have happened was a complete overhaul with upper management, but I guess keeping the team that works on Everevrse will save the game, right?

I don't know if there are many video game companies like Bungie who eliminated half of the content they released - and sold before, only to reintroduce it later to sell it again. Bungie burned the earth and destroyed bridges. They made so many mistakes. All of Bungie's projects are aborted or delayed. There's a possible takeover by Sony if they do not meet their obligated financial goals. And, if that's not enough, there's a growing expectation within Bungie regarding their leadership leaving after the final payouts from Sony. [url=https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-shakes-up-marathon-leadership-removes-chris-barrett-as-game-director]Bungie Replaces Marathon Director Amid Leadership Shakeup, Fears of Layoffs[/url] I think, even if it's only a game, one has to be "capable of suffering" to cope with it. Not for nothing, it has cost Bungie customers - customers they still could have if they weren't that savage with this game and them.

Another grandiose post that shows: yall need help, not bungie lol.

So buff fusion rifles?

[quote]Where to even start with what seems like one of the worst mishandlings of a company over the past 2+years, but really started long ago. I guess the beginning...... The most important, crucial mistake, that Bungie ever made, and from what I see was the beginning of their downfall, is the slap to the customers face that had been with them since the beginning. BUNGIE!!!! YOU STOLE THE CONTENT THAT YOUR CUSTOMERS PAID FOR, AND NEVER RETURNED IT!!! Stole the Initial D2 game from us (No more Red War Campaign) Stole the next two released DLC's (Mars and Mercury) and all the missions, destinations that came with it. You STOLE EVERYTHING up to Forsaken DLC, and you cut that in half and left us the dreaming city, the end of that DLC. But once again,no more campaign missions. That doesn't even include all of the strikes & raids that left with it, all done in the name of the lie that it was part of the story, even though it was due to poor managing of funds in your company, and no investment on your infrastructure to be able to support the prior/present/and future DLC's. You have been feeding us recycled content from 2014-2016, mixed with some of the worst campaign missions over the years, and destinations that are honestly, not enjoyable, nor repeatable to the average user. You have provided us an abomination of a PVP setup, which went ignored for years, and is now vastly skipped over, due to things that have already been stated in other posts. I don't even attempt trials of Osiris or competitive anymore. You can verify that on the site. Just not worth the headache, much like your raids. (There's a reason why less than 15% of your customer base have ever completed one) Stop making it an annual event and competition for all , and just make it enjoyable, with modified rules on Day 1 or something) Its created a toxic environment for LFG, and for those that say "Its not that hard" That's great!! congrats!! You're part of 15% of all Destiny players. I am as well. But we've left so many behind, and this is one of many reasons Bungie sees its numbers drop drastically around this time. It's no longer fun, its a part time job with daily and weekly tasks now. It's no longer fun. It's just what's available, until another company puts out something similar, and we feel confident enough, to finally step away from the thousands of hours, and 100's of $$ we put into this game, and wanted to finish the fight. Bungie we didn't abandon you. You abandoned us. Moving on.. (I shouldn't even get started, or even know where to begin, on your poor excuse of a network, hiding behind all of its failures due to senior mgmt, and pulling a random insect/mammal/reptile name from the encyclopedia, to describe the specific layer issue, when 90% of the failures are on your side, and your servers, and their failure to maintain availability, and a solid connection to multiple customers, regardless of surges you may see) For the past 10 years, you always knew what to expect on DLC release and the stress it would bring, yet across all these DLC's year after year, you never improved, and your customers suffered for a minimum of 24-48 hrs after every release. GIVE US BACK WHAT YOU TOOK, THE STORY IS OVER!!. And instead of releasing 17% of your workforce, which none were responsible for your past failures, your CFO and CEO should've resigned, as the past year's results, were 100% due to their leadership, and mishandling of funds. I've never seen a companies executive leadership sell itself, then turn around and blow through the billions they acquired for the sale, in less than 2 years. Even more amazing how anyone at the top kept their job and didn't either resign or be terminated. I find it hard to believe 1 DLC expansion, and a game yet to be released, costs over 2 billion to complete. You should be ashamed of yourselves for claiming you "exhausted all other mitigation options" when you should've been one of the few at the top that walked the plank yourself, and at least have some honor and integrity, as you and the ones you have meetings with, caused all of this with your policies and handling of this franchise. Shame on you[/quote] all they did was call the same thing SOMETHING ELSE AND MAKE LESS OF THEM? this gsnes dead

The incompetence isn't just at the top, it goes all the way down to the bottom.

Oh I dunno. All the previous content can't realistically be available at a whim, I don't think. Hardware would be a limiting factor. Anyway, we're buying a decaying product. New stuff replaces old. (yeah, maybe Bungie needs lesson this, but anyway...) A trip to the movie theatre buys only that trip. Only that movie. A trip to Disneyland - poor choice - National Drag or Motor Racing. You don't get to go back tomorrow on the same ticket. Jeez, even the Toaster we bought last week will die in a couple of years. (or months!) Destiny is the same. No, I can't agree that content was stolen. I'm not even convinced that releases should be based, or follow on, from previous releases. I mean, if Release 01 was shooting aliens on Mars, and winning the fight. All them suckers are in the ground. Release 02 was a new mob of aliens from somewhere else, and we did the same to them. As far as progression of the character goes, I dunno about that either. If progression was/is retained, how do new players start?

It's sad watching the slow decline and mismanagement of something that was once so special. My clan has all disappeared, we're all in different games, I don't think even 3 of them bought the last dlc.

Huge agree especially the focus on making raids tougher and tougher as MORE and more players would quit raiding and quit playing. My d1 friends quit because raids were just too much, they just wanted FUN