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Edited by Yellowgate: 8/1/2024 3:08:45 PM
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This situation is the fault of EVERYONE at Bungie. The pearl clutching about the big bad nasty CEO being to blame for it all is ridiculous. I run a small business with eight employees. I can be the bestest Boss ever, but if they are making a product that few want to buy, a shoddy overpriced product, then I am not going to have a business. This is how the world outside works and it seems to be a shock to some people. Everyone has a share in this. From the mismanagement at the very top, to the Dev's who sent Lightfall through the door and who made Final Shape which has lost 80% of it's players on Steam in under two months. And what are we seeing now ??, stuff about a new raid from sacked Dev's. The same Raids that very few play and are apparently the focus of their time. It's been ten years and they just do not learn. Bungie did this to themselves. From top to bottom.
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  • When they do crap like lock solo players out from the class items that’s all I need to know!!!

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  • Here’s an upvote. You are 100% correct.

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  • Yes, probably is true employees chosen to go with the flow, until it was too late. But leaders are directly responsible from gather submissive behavior on their employees. Somehow everybody is responsable, but in the end, is the boss.

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  • Edited by R-E-D-C-E-L-L: 8/1/2024 4:24:37 PM
    Bad take. And if your business fails, sorry but you being the boss, that's on you and your bad direction and leadership. If people aren't doing their jobs right, it's on you to rectify that. If it continues to the detriment of the business, you only have yourself to blame.

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  • No, I wouldn't say everyone!! There are going to be lots of devs who don't have any say in the direction of the game. I don't think music/art directors have impact beyond their speciality... aside from perhaps the decision to use/re-use assests!!

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  • Agreed, terrible design, an absurd insistence on focusing on difficulty and challenge (didn't they learn when everyone hated "bring challenge back to Destiny" during Lightfall and the game director who came up with that ended up leaving?). The raid, which is basically the only thing left to grind week in and week out, that is so annoying and time consuming that the only people left doing it are the toxic level 11 elites which makes raiding so stressful and unfun. I absolutely do not feel sorry for the devs, they insisted on difficulty and making things so hard "players would cry" so of course everyone left but the streamers and the ultra sweats. Games are supposed to be fun, not a struggle. They made their bed, they can lay in it. They should have made better choices.

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  • Edited by SCRFY N3RF HRDR: 8/1/2024 4:03:54 PM
    That director came and shitted in everyone’s cereal then left.

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  • Would upvote this a million times. Drive me nuts how the devs are always blameless when they are the ones who always tried to force us to play their way, ignored most feedback about the game for years, patched/nerfed every single thing that benefited players or sped up grind time, and just generally mismanaged the game into the ground. It isn't the CEOs fault that PVP is an unbalanced mess that has been ignored for years, or that Gambit was allowed to get stagnant, etc. The devs have been ruining the game for a long time now.

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  • That’s like blaming a bricklayer for following bad designs

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  • Facts. The ultimate responsibility falls on the boss. You have a business, that is YOUR business plan in practice. If people are doing things wrong and it's not corrected, blame yourself for that. Arrogant bosses always love to exonerate themselves of any blame and put it on employees. Guy doesn't sound like a good boss at all, he sounds like an irresponsible one. When an employee fails to follow regulations that keep a product and its consumers safe and someone gets hurt, it's your business that gets sued and it comes out of your own insurance.

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  • I’m sure the dude cranking out lore on Mara Sov’s bathwater appreciates being equally responsible for the game’s failings

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  • That guy carries the most blame tbh

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