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90% of warlock exotics are terrible

Seriously, most warlock exotics are less than useless and bungie really doesn’t care! Don’t believe me? Wings of sacred dawn are never used and haven’t been changed at all since release. Vesper of radius is hilariously useless as it does no damage in pvp and pve. Eye of another world does close to nothing when it coes to recharging abilities. Claws are bad because warlock melee is the worst melee in the game as it misses and has no range. Skull was nerfed so hard it literally give no energy back to super. Sanguine is useless since one eyed exists and they get free wall hacks anywhere but we have to stand still. Starfire is never used because sticky grenades are terrible and orbit players now. Winters guile buff is too short at only 4 seconds. Sunbracers are worthless as they don’t give 2 grenades anymore and solar Grenades don’t stack.

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  • True. But nobody cares

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  • Getaway Artist is amazing. I use it to soften people in Crucible so my Fighting Lion can finish them. That's my tactic I'm using to try and get Mountain Top.

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  • Hold my beer. Let’s take a look at Warlocks shall we. [spoiler]Skull of Dire Ahamkhara: got nerfed too hard. Needs the Tether treatment. Crown of Tempests: God tier add clear. Highest add clear super in game. Tether doesn’t count because it’s not a roaming Super, it doesn’t flat out kill enemies, and it requires Orpheus to Tether repeatedly, which has been nerfed twice. Eye of Another World: just flat out reduces all cooldowns. Going to get better with Shadowkeep and return of Intellect Discipline and Strength. Going to refer to these as “stats” from now on. Nezarecs Sin: absolutely godly if you know what you’re doing with it. Recluse with this thing is a monstrous combination. Just got a Gnawing Hunger with Demolitionist which means I’m practically shitting Grenades. The Stag: carried me through Vorgeth encounter of Solo Shattered Throne. Will be good in 3v3 elim. Verity’s Brow: Another god tier helmet. Focuses on Grenades rather than everything like Nezarecs, with Top Tree Nova Bomb’s Overcharged Grenades and a set of Armament mods? Heavy EVERYWHERE. Apotheosis Veil: ew. Astrocyte Verse: Top Tier PvP Exotic. Almost TOO good, makes Blink feel terrible when you take it off. Sunbracers: infinite Solar Grenades for a short duration. Would be god tier if the melee proc worked properly, but it needs fixing. Karnsteins: basically Devour on any Subclass. Like bruh. Winters Guile: needs a buff. Aeon Soul: all the Aeon gauntlets need a buff. Souls aren’t special. Ophidian Aspect: faster reload, ready speed, and melee range. Like come on. Claws of Ahamkhara: will be better when stats are realeased in Shadowkeep. Contraverse Hold: Handheld Supernova’s best friend. Getaway Artist: will be better when stats come out. Still good now, especially with a Demolitionist weapon. The grenade eat animation needs to be faster, it’s annoying to reactivate every 20 seconds when it’s that slow. Starfire Protocol: Two Grenade Charges means double healing Grenades for middle tree DB. Wings of Sacred Dawn: will probably be more useful when Scouts get buffed. Vesper of Radius: the main focus of the exotic is Rift energy. The Arc shockwave is secondary, same thing with Khepris Horn. However a buff to those secondary abilities would go a long way. Chromatic Fire: not bad, but not the best either. Was highly disappointed to find out that killing enemies with the AOE while using Lumina didn’t generate additional Remnants. Phoenix Protocol: put a Well down and start 30 seconds of invincible rootin tootin bad guy shooting, Get a high score and you get a free play again. Sanguine Alchemy: ew. Transversive Steps: Warlock version of Stompeez and Antaeus Wards. Reloads your weapon on the go. Nuff said. Lunafactions: literally Raid meta and still will Be after nerf. Geomags: UNLIMITED POWER. Triple Geomag can kill a Primeval at Slayer x1. Basically we’ve got 10 Exotics that are absolute god tier in their respective aspects of the game. Crown, Nezarecs, Verity’s, Astrocyte, Karnstein, Ophidian, Phoenix, Transversive, Lunafactions, and Geomags. Claws, Getaway, Eye of another World, Contraverse Hold, and Starfire will get better when Stats come back so you can allocate stats to reduce cooldowns for those specific things you want. Stag: the rift that drops under your ghost when you die should stay until you revive. Skull: needs to give at least SOME Super energy. Apotheosis: needs a rework. Sunbracers: need to activate properly. Burn DOT should count as a Solar Melee Kill. Winters Guile: Warlock melee is too slow, and Guile needs a longer timer. Aeon Soul: all Aeon gauntlets need a buff. Vesper of Radius: the Arc Shockwave should be a lot bigger. Sanguine Alchemy: effect should remain for a time after leaving the rift. Similar to Weapons of Light on Bubble. So 90% is a MASSIVE exaggeration. Of course there’s Exotics that need buffing, but that’s the case with EVERY CLASS. I could go into detail about Hunters and Titans Exotics that are in the same boat but my thumbs are tired and this has become a wall of text.[/spoiler] So yeah.

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    • Edited by Kredilan: 9/13/2019 1:44:40 PM
      90% of exotics are useless on every class.....

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    • 90% of exotic armor is trash

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    • Hey now, Eye of Another World isn't that bad. It reduces the cooldowns of all you abilities at nearly the same rate as having 2 of each ability Cooldown mod equipped on your armor.

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    • 90% of Exotics period are terrible, regardless of class. ;(

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      • My vote is for an exotic that allows you to make a Nova Bomb either Shatter or Lance Heck we are getting a rocket launcher in October that basically shoots nova bombs making bottom tree NB even more useless

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      • 90% of all exotics are meh

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        • 90% of [b]ALL[/b] exotics are terrible in D2.

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          • Yes, and so are the hunter and titan exotics. The fact that OEM and STMP5 exist doesnt mean that their exotics dont suck. Warlocks simply have no meta gear in pvp. Thats the issue.

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          • You guys don’t have the Oathkeepers, Mechaneers Tricksleeves or the Lucky Pants You think you have bad exotics?

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              ADS for 2 seconds……… - old

              I must be honest, as a Warlock main, I gave up reading when you said warlock melee has no range :/ like, seriously?

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              • They messed up by nerf

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              • 90% of all exotics are terrible

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              • Titans: [i]first time?[/i]

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              • Mmmmm Dire ahamkara skull - still ok Crown of [i]idkw[/i] - ok Sunbreakers - OK Geo[i]something[/i] boots - ok Ophidian aspect - as ok as the nerfed lunafaction boots Lunafaction boots - not so ok but somewhat ok 90% 🤔

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                • how on earth are wormhusk and stompees broken? stompees is just bonus agility (which warlocks have a version of) and wormhusk hasn't been used since trials!

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                  • Agreed. I really want to play Devour Voidwalker but the lack of useful Exotics combined with how terrible Vortex Nova Bomb is - which a 15% damage increase will not fix - means that I never have reason to swap off Chaos Reach. Speaking of which, I actually want Geomags to get nerfed. Buff Chaos Reach base duration to 5s but lower the effectiveness of Geomags so that it remains 8s maximum; the Super has some co-dependency issues with those boots.

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                    • I love how everyone on the bottom are claiming that warlocks have good exotics, Its funny to me how the majority of these guys either don’t even play warlocks or have unlocked a few good exotics for the class and think warlock exotics are actually good. Unless you guys main warlocks I feel you guys have no say on how good or bad a warlock is. Some pf you are only mentioning the good exotics like crown of tempest, geomag etc. like duh there are a few that stand out as good but literally the rest of the exotics are straight up bad especially at higher level of play. Some of you are claiming these builds that you can make but I dare you to try those builds on comp, watch you get burned.

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                      • While 99% of titan exotics are worthless. You know what that 1% is.

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                      • It's okay, nerfing things like Skull or Lunafaction boots will incentivize players to use these other exotics. That's the only reason they suck, not just because they suck... Right? Right????

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                      • As a warlock main, I completely disagree with you. We have amazing exotics.

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                      • For PvE: - Crown of Tempests - Extremely powerful with Top tree Stormcaller. Skull of Dire Ahamkara - Despite the nerf, still powerful. You just need to time your supers well. Verity’s Brow - Very overlooked exotic. Pairs greatly with Recluse. 3 stacks gets you and nearby allies your grenade back in 20 seconds. It’s a decent utility exotic that doesn’t stand out a ton, but can make a huge difference especially if you’re using the right subclass. Phoenix Protocol - Same as skull. Lunafaction Boots - Despite the nerf, I doubt that well will be going away. Increased reload speed isn’t great, but it’s still going to be the go-to for DPS. Getaway Artist - sentient arc soul hits hard and can have a near constant up time on the bottom tree. Even works well on top tree. For PvP: - Controvese Hold - because you’re that kind of person... - Ophidian Aspect - Solid passive bonuses that just give you an edge in every area. Not flashy, but gets the job done. - The Blink Helmet that I haven’t gotten yet and can never remember the name of... - Brings back Blink Shotgun. Not flashy but brings back one of the most annoying play styles. - transverse Steps - a good Weapon that doesn’t do anything flashy but helps your Neutral game a lot. Look, warlocks don’t really have a lot of flashy pvp options like one eyed mask. In PvE they have a ton of options. Try out sunbracers if you want flashy and they can do great damage with fusion Grenades. They have options, don’t only use the meta.

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                        • Sanguine OMEGALUL what a crap exotic

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                          • Seriously? Just...really? There’s a multitude of warlock Exotics that are insanely good. Contraverse hold, Lunafaction (even after their nerf they’ll still be considered useful), Geomags, Skull (granted not as effective as it used to be but still useful), -blam!-in sun bracers are good too! But the ones that are truly useless? 99% of titan Exotics, except for the only one we al know. Call me back when they give a buff to a Titan exotic that actually does a damn outside of One Eyed mask and we’ll be even.

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