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[quote]Hold my beer. Let’s take a look at Warlocks shall we. [spoiler]Skull of Dire Ahamkhara: got nerfed too hard. Needs the Tether treatment. Crown of Tempests: God tier add clear. Highest add clear super in game. Tether doesn’t count because it’s not a roaming Super, it doesn’t flat out kill enemies, and it requires Orpheus to Tether repeatedly, which has been nerfed twice. Eye of Another World: just flat out reduces all cooldowns. Going to get better with Shadowkeep and return of Intellect Discipline and Strength. Going to refer to these as “stats” from now on. Nezarecs Sin: absolutely godly if you know what you’re doing with it. Recluse with this thing is a monstrous combination. Just got a Gnawing Hunger with Demolitionist which means I’m practically shitting Grenades. The Stag: carried me through Vorgeth encounter of Solo Shattered Throne. Will be good in 3v3 elim. Verity’s Brow: Another god tier helmet. Focuses on Grenades rather than everything like Nezarecs, with Top Tree Nova Bomb’s Overcharged Grenades and a set of Armament mods? Heavy EVERYWHERE. Apotheosis Veil: ew. Astrocyte Verse: Top Tier PvP Exotic. Almost TOO good, makes Blink feel terrible when you take it off. Sunbracers: infinite Solar Grenades for a short duration. Would be god tier if the melee proc worked properly, but it needs fixing. Karnsteins: basically Devour on any Subclass. Like bruh. Winters Guile: needs a buff. Aeon Soul: all the Aeon gauntlets need a buff. Souls aren’t special. Ophidian Aspect: faster reload, ready speed, and melee range. Like come on. Claws of Ahamkhara: will be better when stats are realeased in Shadowkeep. Contraverse Hold: Handheld Supernova’s best friend. Getaway Artist: will be better when stats come out. Still good now, especially with a Demolitionist weapon. The grenade eat animation needs to be faster, it’s annoying to reactivate every 20 seconds when it’s that slow. Starfire Protocol: Two Grenade Charges means double healing Grenades for middle tree DB. Wings of Sacred Dawn: will probably be more useful when Scouts get buffed. Vesper of Radius: the main focus of the exotic is Rift energy. The Arc shockwave is secondary, same thing with Khepris Horn. However a buff to those secondary abilities would go a long way. Chromatic Fire: not bad, but not the best either. Was highly disappointed to find out that killing enemies with the AOE while using Lumina didn’t generate additional Remnants. Phoenix Protocol: put a Well down and start 30 seconds of invincible rootin tootin bad guy shooting, Get a high score and you get a free play again. Sanguine Alchemy: ew. Transversive Steps: Warlock version of Stompeez and Antaeus Wards. Reloads your weapon on the go. Nuff said. Lunafactions: literally Raid meta and still will Be after nerf. Geomags: UNLIMITED POWER. Triple Geomag can kill a Primeval at Slayer x1. Basically we’ve got 10 Exotics that are absolute god tier in their respective aspects of the game. Crown, Nezarecs, Verity’s, Astrocyte, Karnstein, Ophidian, Phoenix, Transversive, Lunafactions, and Geomags. Claws, Getaway, Eye of another World, Contraverse Hold, and Starfire will get better when Stats come back so you can allocate stats to reduce cooldowns for those specific things you want. Stag: the rift that drops under your ghost when you die should stay until you revive. Skull: needs to give at least SOME Super energy. Apotheosis: needs a rework. Sunbracers: need to activate properly. Burn DOT should count as a Solar Melee Kill. Winters Guile: Warlock melee is too slow, and Guile needs a longer timer. Aeon Soul: all Aeon gauntlets need a buff. Vesper of Radius: the Arc Shockwave should be a lot bigger. Sanguine Alchemy: effect should remain for a time after leaving the rift. Similar to Weapons of Light on Bubble. So 90% is a MASSIVE exaggeration. Of course there’s Exotics that need buffing, but that’s the case with EVERY CLASS. I could go into detail about Hunters and Titans Exotics that are in the same boat but my thumbs are tired and this has become a wall of text.[/spoiler] So yeah.[/quote] All basically saying pve wise warlocks are solid. In crucible there is a reason they are the least used class. Jump is floaty (even though the other two Jumps) are largely not used. Only burst glide sees regular use. Most warlock exotics are just ok. Steps, aspects and sometimes the sins of limiting a void set up. I mainly run the sins until I build the storm super and switch to the crown. Warlock exotics DO need a major rework in the crucible.

Step into Gambit with me bud. I’ll always have Heavy ammo. Verity’s Brow can give you a 20 second Grenade cooldown. Throw on a couple of Armament mods and you have unlimited heavy. I’ve basically soloed Primevals with Thunderlord and still had ammo left to invade. You’re focusing on the exotic alone and not considering what ELSE you can do with it. Synergy is part of any MMO. Edit: Feel free to inspect my Warlock, I’ve got Verity’s equipped at the moment. Take a good look at the rest of my loadout too, from the mods on my armor (armaments and ordinance) to the perks (enhanced impact induction) and my Weapons (Recluse, the best f*cking energy primary)

[quote]Crown of Tempests: Good at PVE add clearing. PVP not so much[/quote] What the heck are you smoking? In PvP it extends stormtrance, its THE exotic warlocks use when running either of the two subclasses. Your nuts.

I mean you can make do just as well with a Gnawing Hunger or Kindled Orchid or Hero’s Burden. Recluse is beefy, but other weapons still work well enough with Nezarecs. Exotics aren’t always meant to work for both PvP and PvE. They usually lean into one role or the other. And Transversive Steps are incredible. They’re like Stompies except they reload for you. Vital to run and gun shotties.

Get away artists do not suck in pvp. Stacked with nade mods at mid range it is deadly.

Found the guy who doesn't play warlock

Bamboozled him

That’s fair. It’s just to me if I’m running PvP I’ve got things for more static buffs as opposed to situational. Transversives, Contraverse Hold, Astrocyte Verse (still don’t have :’) The more I find myself using it the better I like it. As opposed to something I might see the effects of twice a match, yknow?

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This is pretty much what I was going to say. OP needs to turn in his Warlock card.

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