You guys at Bungie made a deliberate, insidious move with D2 only with two main objectives in mind: - making it a casual FPS to increase your player base; - balancing PvP by toning down and scraping almost everything that made Destiny what it was at his core; What did you achieve with that? None of the goals you were pursuing. The player base is decreasing because casual players do what they always do, they play the campaign, a few of other modes here and there and move on. And because of the abysmal nerf and scraps you made to all the fundamental systems of the game, the core players are abandoning D2 as well. On PvP side almost everyone says that the new gameplay is boring, has no excitement at all and the number of people that still play it is getting as low as it has ever been. Just look at Trials numbers. In the end, all that Bungie achieved with D2 was making money by betraying all their player base that trusted that you guys would build D2 upon the refinement that was achieved over the last 3 years with D1. Yes, you played the deception card and you won, congratulations. But by doing so you also showed your true colors to your community and the future looks grim for your company, as far as I'm concerned. The only way you can minimize (not repair) the enormous hole you made in your own reputation as a developer, is: - completely scrap the core conception of D2 and return to D1 core design as in year 3 AoT period; - separate PvE and PvP balance. Create specific gear for PvP that can only be [b][u]earned and used[/u][/b] in that game mode and [u]block all PvE gear for being used in PvP[/u]; Anything less than that will only be like trying to put down a huge fire with glasses of water. It won't work.

Enjoying your vacation? Don't worry, everything is really solid here. Lol.

Crucible - Gametypes, Team sizes [b]Big Team? + ability to chose game types[/b]

I know this is off topic but I just had to say this...all other posts are eververse lol... Seems to me that Destiny 2 is a rushed dumbed down version of Destiny 1. Far less player customization for skill tress. No Rumble or 6v6 and we only can chose from quickplay or competitive No Private Matches Every gun has same exact perks. No random perks. Recovery is only stat that matters No strike exclusive loot We turn in tokens for rewards and end up deleting every single thing we get after a month of playing Masterworks give you such a minuscule bump in stats on weapons. It does help in pve with supers though. End game raid and trials gear rewards you with cosmetics. Raid and trials armor is equal to every other armor. I could go on... 3 years of collecting data from primary, special, heavy ammo set up was just thrown out the window to implement a new 2 primary 1 power ammo set up with limited testing and player feedback. After 3 years you devs couldn’t figure out the best way to balance it? Changes were made over n over and I thought at the end of Destiny 1 u guys got it right. But this new Destiny 2 set up is by far the biggest fail in my opinion. Why have Rockets, Snipers, Shotguns, Fusions, Linear Fusions, Grenade Launchers, and Swords all in one slot? Thats 7 different weapons to chose from on 1 slot. Raising TTK, lowering Grenade n Melee abilities recharge rate n damage, lowering recovery as well as speed n maneuverability really made PvP far less exciting. On top of that it’s all 4v4. It’s just not rewarding enough cause it’s all teamplay 100% of the time almost. It’s so tough to clutch a round or wipe a team by yourself. The “Huge Plays” don’t happen much at all. The replayability is gone too. Nothing to grind for at all, since rewards are the same and nothing unique. Masterworks didn’t do much to me. Why get rid of so many things Destiny 1 had that tons of players liked? It’s like I’m playing Destiny .5 instead of Destiny 2. Still love Destiny but it’s such a huge disappointment. What the hell happened? My guess is you guys were rushed but why change so many things that we perfect? Why implement new 2 primary 1 power weapon with little testing or feedback? Especially when you devs had 3 years of collecting data on 1 primary, 1 special, 1 heavy load out? I just don’t get it....

You seem to do a lot of watching....and feedback....and "conversing". Your game is a joke now. LMFAO 🤣😂

Thanks -dmg04, Unlike most of the other responses, not sure if they are young or just not able to process change I fully understand why things were changed from D1 to D2, and I have to say that weapon balance is the best it has been in years... but... you knew it was coming right, but by doing what they did to balance weapons, trying to make PVP more stable it seems like a lot of the little things that brought you back after you finished all the end game stuff , well.... just isn't there. I loved the fact that my vendor rolled Hung Jury was a great weapon and any new players couldn't get it unless they got that specific drop, Heroic Strikes? Ya, have no interest if there's no special one of a kind reward, who cares. Exotics? ya, they fall like leaves in the fall and none of them stand out, I played for hours in D1 and at the end of the first year had a handful of great Exotics, now in D2 I have a wheelbarrow full of Exotics I could care less about. The whole Dawning thing, is kinda nice but still offers nothing that helps the end game... just something to fill a players time.... at least the SRL was sorta fun and gave decent rewards.

Blame Activision. Not Bungie. Activison are the ones who passed the law for you to be matched with players who buy in game content. Not Bungie. Yes Activison screwed Bungie and its effecting the entire gaming world. Its happening in Final Fantasy 15: A new empire. A mobile game. I spent 6.49. Now for anything I have to pay 25.99. I blame Activision for getting this absolutely -blam!- law passed. Reverse the law tht was passed asap. We should all join up to have it reversed to fix the gaming world. Boycott activision. Not bungie. Bungie did nothing. They only did what needed to have their game published and now are suffering due to Activision's evil doings. Activision must die!!!!! BOYCOTT ACTIVISION. THEY ARE THE ONE WHO HAVE CAUSED THIS WITH THEIR DUMB MICROTRANSACTION LAW THAT GOT PASSED. LOOK IT UP. I FOLLOW GAMING NEWS ALWAYS. GAMERANT HAS EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON AND WE SHOULD NEVER BLAME THE DEVELOPERS. WE SHOULD BE BLAMING THE PUBLISHER ACTIVISION THAT MESSED SHIT UP. THANKS. HAVE SOME INSIGHT AS TO WHO DID WHAT. BUNGIE ONLY DID WHAT THEY HAD TO SO THEY COULD HAVE THEIR GAME PUBLISHED AND GOT SCREWED BY ACTIVISION THEIR PUBLISHER. VERY UNFAIR TO BUNGIE. THANKS FOR READING SOME INFO THAT MOST MAY NOT KNOW. THE PUBLISHER HAS THE FINAL SAY FOR ANY GAME. NOT THE DEVELOPER.

Why does bungie practice predatory gaming?

There are some pretty obvious solutions to common community issues: take everything - EVERYTHING - out of Eververse and implement them as relevant in-game activity rewards (why are the ships not in Holliday's currently worthless inventory?), increase vault space, mass dismantle shaders, (re)introduce strike specific loot and raid armour perks because, well, why would you remove them in the first place...? Unfortunately D2's biggest issues are foundational. Eververse has systematically killed the endgame reward system and made a sizeable part of your playerbase feel like marks, and it deserves to be razed to the ground. You can no longer excuse it away as a harmless, necessary evil to fund the live team; you rushed out a paid expansion just 3 months in after all. But if it does continue to fund free events, what has it funded? A returning crucible mode, snowballs, and all the best looking loot locked exclusively away in loot boxes which would presumably fund the next event that revolves around loot boxes. This vicious cycle is not sustainable no matter how much short term profit it rakes in. And it goes beyond the Eververse issue - the whole design process just seems so ill-judged. You wanted to make the game as shallow as possible so casual players could get their fill and move on, but left them next to nothing to incentivise them into becoming hardcore players - players who were, in turn, left wholly underwhelmed by the game's lack of depth (Masterworks are a good start but are no substitute for random rolls). Despite the power and fun factor of exotics like Sweet Business, Merciless and Wardcliff Coil, PvP balance continues to cripple the speed and general power fantasy of the game (with the recent nerf to shoulder charge on top of titan skating's removal, I'm back to playing warlock almost exclusively). Then there's recurring story issues such as the one-note writing (witty ghost!) and incredibly awkward cutscenes designed around our guardians talking back - except they can't. I could go on but this is getting essay length. One last thing. The correct response to the exposure of XP throttling, aside from stopping lying to our faces, was a mea culpa. Instead, you acted like a very intentional system was something slipped in under the radar and you're just as appalled as we are. You will [b]not[/b] win back trust by so brazenly insulting players' intelligence, nor will you by constantly talking about "listening" - after all, 3 years of feedback went out the window with all the excellent additions and QoL fixes missing from D2. I simply do not trust or believe in you anymore.

Sorry to say dude, you went to profit instead of quality. The only way I see it, is to scrap the game.