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Edytowany przez użytkownika tactlock:
6/17/2022 2:04:39 PM
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Whoa. Weapon Crafting is terrible.
I didn't know how awful weapon crafting was until I finally got around to trying it out.
It's really bad.
In my opinion, here's what could save it:
-blueprints need to be unlocked quicker/easier. By time I unlock a blueprint from the raid, there are already better weapons that I want to craft. By time I get those blueprints there will be better weapons, and this cycle just continuously repeats.
-it takes way too much time to level a weapon, and the enhanced mods aren't worth it. This system encourages mindless Shuro Cheese, which is awful design. Either make enhanced perks worth the tedium, or make it quicker to rank crafted weapons. Preferably a little of both.
Anyway, weapon crafting is horrible and I'll go back to ignoring it again unless the issues above are addressed.
Edit: hm. Interesting responses. It seems a lot of people agree with at least the part about blueprints being frustrating to obtain.
But, apparently, a lot of people believe that video games are for workin', not for enjoyin', and therefore I don't deserve crafting. Probably the same nerds who didn't use cheat codes.
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I've just ignored it. Probably have enough red weapons to unlock a couple blueprints already, but the system sucks so much I just don't bother, lol.
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3 OdpowiedziHonestly, I think we would have a huge incentive to actually grind for the craftable weapons, if they simply gave us 2 perk options in slot 3, and 2 perk options in slot 4. The fact we still gotta either a) save 2 of them for PVP and PVE (if we like them enough) or b) re-forge them everytime they want to change PVE or PVP activities (which is insane). The fact we can't inherently have both our God roll PVE and PVP weapons in ONE, is kinda asinine, and a horrible oversight. We get chances at multiple-perk drops already, once we can unlock the focusing. Why would we keep our crafted on over a random drop with 4 perks we will absolutely utilize? Dumb.
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6 OdpowiedziNever crafted anything except 1 weapon during campaign and one pulse rifle. I prefer random drops. I instantly delete a red border unless it has a roll I like
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1 Odpowiedźthis entire season is the most unfun experience I've ever had, not just in this game, but in my recent memory for ANY game. the dungeon this season is complete bunk, pvp has always been a joke, the mods, the gear, the modifiers, just top to bottom sht sht & more sht. about the only thing I did like this entire season was the helmet ornaments, they actually looked ok for a change, literally everything else could be vented into space for all I care, this entire season is a massive waste of everyone's time.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika CaptainKada: 6/20/2022 2:52:04 PMMy theory: remove the redbox resonance RNG system. Instead, let us accumulate data from the weapon by using it. We already have kill trackers on the weapons, make it work off that. Think like 5k for primary, 2k for special, 1k for heavy. Then once we have hit that threshold, let us take the weapon to the (forgot the name, the forge thing where we shape and reshape) and scan the weapon. At that point, we get the pattern. This would completely remove RNG which is frustrating the players and reward consistent dedication. Since we are on the crafting subject, how about higher level perks? Like I have a rocket launcher I've used for a long time. I'm not saying make it super OP, but more like quality of life or ease of use characteristics. Something to reward long term dedication to your favorite weapon.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika High Charity: 6/21/2022 10:30:47 PMIt's been five weeks and I have yet to get a single Austringer drop. Not even deepsight, any Austringer.
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika michael: 6/20/2022 2:06:18 PMYeah this season is my first time trying to craft a weapon and wow it is very bad. 5 attunements to get a pattern is so lame, Ive done probably 25 or 30 runs of containment and never once gotten a red border beloved or austringer, only way to get them is the once a week first focus if you have that upgrade, or if you just get lucky with focusing one but it feels like the odds of getting a red border on a gun you focus is like 1 in 5 and its not like you can really spam focus them because the umbral essence is burned through fast and earned slowly.
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Fully agree Lots of potential improvements, all drops could be fed to a crafted gun to level it up, all guna could simply have deepsight or crafting could cost less Perks could be unlocked permanently All instances of a gun could share xp Every 10th or xth drop could be a guaranteed deepsight A crafted weapon could be leveled up to include multiple selectable perks in each column Crafted weapons could be pulled from collections at their highest level obtained
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I'd agree that getting patterns is way more of a pain in the -blam!- that it needs to be. However the weapons level up pretty quick just using them in activities and there gonna be around for a while.
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less deepsight weapons needed instead of 5. i got so many enhancement cores. i could pay 10 for 1 level, 100 for 10 levels etc.
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It’s an awful slog. Craft weapon, then spend hours at shuro chi to level it up. Feels terrible and not fun at all.
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6 OdpowiedziYeah, I'm completely burnt out over this concept and game. YouTube guides with "Get all your weapons done in just 25 hours!" And then show a guide how your have to run from chest to chest to public event or whatever for 25 hours. What? 25 hours is the FASTEST method? That's more than half a work week. This game is 90% grind and barely 10% game. The fact we cannot just play any activity we like, get a random deepsight weapon from that activity, level it up and craft it however you want and can play whatever activity we want after that is just beyond me. And these are all Menagerie weapons Luke Smith said were too powerful and had to be sunset!!! And now all of a sudden they're NOT too powerful and we have to spent 25+ hours AGAIN to get them? Don't get me wrong, I'm super happy Luke Smith is no longer in a position to destroy this game, but this grind, just to grind, just to grind is horrible. And when you finally have 5 the same deepsight weapons and upgraded them, THEN you have to spent 2 hours at Shuro Shi or whatever that dude is called. AND THAT'S THE FASTEST WAY!!! South Park's predictions about gaming in 2006's 'Make love, not Warcraft' all came true. "Now what do we do?", "What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game." Modern gaming is the worst. XD
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I kinda feel maybe they should give us the ability to give our crafted weapons the option to change elements along with perks you don’t normally get on different weapons i.e. mida mini with subsistence
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17 OdpowiedziI disagree, the drop rates for the red box weapons would be the only thing I’d like changed. Why should everyone have the best gun in the game just given to them? Best in slot weapons should be earned, not given to you. Read that last part again.
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1 OdpowiedźHard agree. Not once have I thought my day-to-day Destiny experience would be improved by investing time in the crafting system. Hours of grinding and weeks of farming for a single “perfect” gun? So I can then have maximum sunk cost fallacy and lock myself into a load out that gets stale within a day? No thank you.
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8 OdpowiedziOr just pretend like it was the last 9 years and use any other gun to completely literally anything, but obv a pvp post. Enhanced perks are a lie. Or are they?
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Weapon crafting took the fun our of landing a god roll, cause you always know you can do better. Id much rather have drops with enhanced perks from harder sources (nightfall for example). Leveling them is also super boring. 35ish shiro checkpoints gets old really fast.
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i find it’s just fine like think about it 5 red boxes is nothing once u lvl up crown u can focus for them. then u craft weapon lvl it up and it took me less then a hour to lvl up calus minitool to lvl 16 then boom god roll but if i just farmed a calus it could take Months to get that perfect roll u all just lazy
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Yeah. I’m not fond of the weapon crafting, it was largely the reason why I couldn’t be bothered with last season. It was just… ehhh.
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1 OdpowiedźCrafting is ponderous and boring, absolutely. On the upside, it’s completely unnecessary so you’re not missing much.
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I have about 20 level 1 weapons I am never going to even try and level up. If you are asking for this much of a time investment, at least give us more choice of perks. They have given us the illusion of choice but the fact is most of the options available are meh. The Palmyra is the only gun I actually use because I want to, because it is good. I'm using a few others to level them and to be honest I'm not sure why.
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Yea, leveling the weapons up is the worst part for me. It’s seems to progress faster this season but still tedious as hell. Really wish there was something equivalent to the motes of light in destiny 1. We were able use them to level up our weapons.
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I’ll just go ahead and say I miss the pinnacle weapon chase. That was a real challenge and forced me to commit to get better at pvp. The push for Luna’s howl to Not Forgotten was almost mentally breaking, but I miss that feeling.
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4 OdpowiedziI was frustrated at first but now I see why they made the weapon pretty hard to obtain this season. The truth is after you get the weapons you want there's just not much to do in this season UNLESS they are hiding something big after the final sever mission. I got the SMG unlocked a few days ago and now I have lost all drive to do the new nightmare containment public event or explore Levi since I got all the rare encounters done for this season's title already (while farming for mini tool.) My plan is just to sit back and use the weekly focusing to get Austringer unlocked as well (already at 3 so 2 more weeks.) and then I am done. If you brought the dungeons you can go and farm storm chaser, I farmed it like crazy for the last 2 weeks and now I am burnt out. Already got a clown/frenzy and a rapid hit/vorpal roll so I am just chasing for a good firing line role, but this dungeon's not going anywhere I can just sit back and do it once per week for the extra loot from the hidden chests. I also got the exotic sword and the dungeon title already. So to sum it up if you put in the grind even with the harsh unlock conditions you will be almost done with the season in a month... If you are just getting the guaranteed weekly red bar weapons I'd imagine you can get it done in 2 months too unless everything you got is just not what you want... Even so it's 5 weeks for a guaranteed unlock already in the worst case. If they make this any easier I think the fact there's not much content in this season will become wayyyyyyy too obvious so they won't do it.
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4 OdpowiedziCraftable weapons aren’t meant to be unlocked quickly. Some people would say increase the drop rate, but if you upgrade the psiops wartable or crown of sorrow you can have more direct methods of deepsight weapons. As for the raid, do the red box doors. Leveling them… it’s 2,000 kills. You don’t have to Suro chi farm unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IT IN AN HOUR. Otherwise, just equip them and idk… use them… And on your note about random drops being better. Sure. You got a rapid hit kill clip, great. Can it be swapped out at any time for a different perk? No? Dang. So you have a more universal weapon with the craftable version than a random drop of the same weapon.
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Bungie update. All weapons are craftable from the start. Bungie update. All craftable weapons now have all perks unlocked from the start. Bungie update. You no longer need any deepsight versions to craft a weapon. Bungie update. Crafting no longer requires resources and can be done from anywhere as opposed to just the enclave. And players will always find something to complain about.
