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6/15/2022 8:38:27 PM
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Duality shows the lack of play testing or care by Bungie
From the momentum of the pushback by enemies into walls that kill you, bugs with the bells killing you when standing too close to them when trying to go into the nightmare realm to needing to run a sword because of the frequent chance of being thrown deep into the void off the map- this dungeon shows the lack of play testing or willingness to fix clear issues within paid content.
Now I get it, there are a lot of things to resolve in this game. But we legit paid for this dungeon and they’ve only covered the major bugs from the week one. They’ve barely put effort into making this a fun experience to run. When a dungeon feels like a chore to complete, you know you’ve done poorly in its execution.
I personally think that you could fix the issues mentioned before, have the shades become more aggressive rather than hiding/waiting when at a distance during the nightmare phase, drop the amount of adds spawning in the second and third encounter by 2-4 (currently, second room drops in 14 per wave), fix the backs of the Bell Guards so grenade kills don’t make them explode and obliterate you from insane distances and finally- slow down Caital in the damage phase would go a long way. Snipers shouldn’t respawn or stack during damage phase either. This rewards you for taking the time to clear them rather than just saying “screw them, they come back anyway”.
Designing this dungeon to make Solar 3.0 shine is going to make this dungeon age terribly if it doesn’t start getting some polish to it. The aesthetic is PHENOMENAL yet the execution and mechanics are below average.
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I like the dungeon and the weapons
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2 OdpowiedziWorst dungeon so far.... Definitely not farming it....
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hehe funny wall go bonk
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6 OdpowiedziA few things. Dying at the Bell is stupid yes. Designing dungeons based off of subclasses? That's actually [i]really[/i] good. Subclasses have a variety of things we can do. Zero hour was good because it was designed based off of arbalest. We had so many Shields and we just blasted things. That's good design. Physics? There's always going to be a time where physics isn't going to function.. it's impossible to expect people to understand coding. Y'all don't have the patience to listen sometimes but you need to have a core understanding that it's almost as if when you're making a game you are weaving a tapestry. It's not so much building blocks that fit together perfectly because when you're finishing said tapestry something may get tugged a little more or something becomes loose. New things will be made and older things would break. People need to understand that. Now, some of these physics bugs are hilarious and I will honestly tell you that I have not been booped straight out to a wall at lightspeed to die. I experienced a physics glitch the other day in a private match. I was jumping and I was going to knife my warlock buddy to kill him. He activated his rift and I went and bounced off of his head and flew away. Physics glitches aren't happening in just the dungeon. They can happen anywhere but they are very few far between. That's not an indictment of the dev team's skill. That's just what happens in coding.
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2 OdpowiedziMad cos bad.
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The only thing I could agree with here are the physics issues which, as people already pointed out, can happen in many places in the game. This isn't the first time that I've died to Phalanx shield on stairs or some weird surface. I don't think the dungeon will age terribly aside from its own merits. While there are many adds in each encounter, I don't see why you couldn't get away with running Void or Stasis to do this dungeon. Part of the reason why Solar 3.0 is so powerful is Classy Restoration. For example, you could run Void and get Volatile Rounds off grenade kills and then also get Devour to regen that way. Frankly, if Titans didn't have infinite hammer and warlocks with Starfire Fusion nades, I don't think they would be quite as powerful as perceived, but that's my take
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4 OdpowiedziCoding is crazy. Its not cool to ship out broken products, but also we can't expect everything, no matter how simple to be an immediate fix. Sometimes even those simple things can take forever, just because fixing it messes up other stuff, or its something, somewhere that was unexpected, or its not what they thought. There's a sh*t ton of different ways that can play out to take forever. So as much as immediate fixes would be cool, its really a patience game with programming, so I think they deserve some slack there. However, shipping out this content with as many problems as it's been having is just stupid on any developer. Thank management for that crap. Those people don't actually understand what their job means, or how to do it properly. Developers are kind of at their mercy, and management never gets punished because [i]"They're in that position for a reason"[/i] and that reason is money. That's all that matters in those realms. They don't understand the reality of this stuff somehow, but that happens when you aren't working directly with all of that stuff, and just telling people to do things. Executive level management is the biggest problem in business as a whole. If they were actually in it for the product, or vision, or people, this stuff would be rare and they'd find it perfectly acceptable to take more time to ensure its properly functional. That's on the public though too. People get upset when things aren't regularly released, and we don't control the business beyond funding them with our purchases, and people kind of demand too much out of studios. Nobody realizes how mind-numbingly intensive coding is though, its horrible, unless you love that stuff. I don't😂, never again. Try to cut some slack for that but you're right to be upset about a buggy mess
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Sounds like skill issue
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"From the momentum of the pushback by enemies into walls that kill you, bugs with the bells killing you when standing too close to them when trying to go into the nightmare realm to needing to run a sword because of the frequent chance of being thrown deep into the void off the map- this dungeon shows the lack of play testing or willingness to fix clear issues within paid content." You do know that you can fight the Bellkeepers out side of melee range right? Just back up. Now the doors breaking if they get bit by a SOLAR nade the same season as SOLAR 3.0 shows a lack of testing. I caused that glitch 90% on accident, because guess what I was using my nades. So at no point in their testing did any throw a nade at the spawn point? Sorry but this one bugged me.
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2 Odpowiedziimagine getting skill diffed by ai in pve and then going online and admitting it to other people
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1 OdpowiedźI disagree. This is the best dungeon yet. Awesome loot. Great aesthetic and lore. And it’s actually challenging. Of course there’s bugs, there always is, but the ones present are minor things. Also, if the enemies didn’t have knockback what makes them a threat?
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1 OdpowiedźSeasonal teams... Not the entirety of Bungie...
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5 OdpowiedziSo glad I didn’t pay for this garbage.
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I feel like a couple bugs are annoying, but some of the stuff you’re talking about sounds like a Skill Issue.
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52 OdpowiedziI disagree. I have ran it start to finish 4-5 times and never encountered thing once. Also if you are being thrown off the map by an enemy you are simply too damn close to that enemy. The only time this happens is if you are so close to the enemy they can malee you, punching you into the abyss. Why you play so close to an enemy is probably why you encounter this and I don't. Keep a distance from enemies in general, not just to not get thrown but to simply die less.
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Just gonna say this. My favourite, most replayable in my view dungeon so far. I have been running Sherpa and teaching runs on it, already have the Seal. Yes there are issues but not that big.
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4 Odpowiedzithis dungeon have only one problem,at the boss the mobs that drop when dead the explosive pack , nothing more
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9 OdpowiedziSkill issue
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6 OdpowiedziPhysic glitches are bound to happen. You can’t really “fix it.” Look at those moments when you stub your toe and die or fall from .0003 meters and die. For the bell, just don’t stand right next to it. Simple.
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Bungie devs are the dogshit of dogshit when it comes to “play testing” this shitty game
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2 OdpowiedziWith averice armor being made obsolete after only 6 months, it'll be interesting to see how many people buy the 2nd dungeon later. It starts to make sense seeing them push the 2000 silver bundle option by default.
