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由adamndirtyape編輯: 1/12/2023 7:52:32 AM
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Finally defeated my nemesis in the Operation Seraph's Shield: Gravity. In Space.

I did Operation Seraph's Shield solo and flawless today on Legendary difficulty. Finally. It never was the enemies that spoiled my previous runs. It was the jumping outside of the space station. It was...Space Gravity! For some reason, instead of drifting gracefully through the weightless vastness of space when you leap, in Destiny's universe, you plummet like a stone as soon as you miss a jump. Jump from the skiff to the platform below. Oops! Landed too hard. Splat. Get knocked back by an enemy and fall to my doom - check. Misjudge a jump to another platform, and again, it's another plummeting flameout from orbit time. I've always been terrible at jumping puzzles but the presence of gravity in space in this game really throws me off for some reason. Cognitive dissonance, maybe? Anyway, it has ended many an attempt at a flawless run during space-based missions (yeah, Presage mission, I'm looking at you too). But not today Space Gravity! Your reign of terror is over and I went flawless. Life is good!

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  • [quote]I did Operation Seraph's Shield solo and flawless today on Legendary difficulty. Finally. It never was the enemies that spoiled my previous runs. It was the jumping outside of the space station. It was...Space Gravity! For some reason, instead of drifting gracefully through the weightless vastness of space when you leap, in Destiny's universe, you plummet like a stone as soon as you miss a jump. Jump from the skiff to the platform below. Oops! Landed too hard. Splat. Get knocked back by an enemy and fall to my doom - check. Misjudge a jump to another platform, and again, it's another plummeting flameout from orbit time. I've always been terrible at jumping puzzles but the presence of gravity in space in this game really throws me off for some reason. Cognitive dissonance, maybe? Anyway, it has ended many an attempt at a flawless run during space-based missions (yeah, Presage mission, I'm looking at you too). But not today Space Gravity! Your reign of terror is over and I went flawless. Life is good![/quote] Way to many jumping, leaping, and hopping puzzles Thought this was a shooter not jump around like a buffoon

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  • Well done going flawless!!👍 Jumping sections is why I bring a sword. That way I can switch to 3rd person POV. Anyways, keep up the get work!! 😁

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  • [quote] For some reason, instead of drifting gracefully through the weightless vastness of space when you leap, in Destiny's universe, you plummet like a stone as soon as you miss a jump. [/quote] I wondered how that Plummeting worked too. I kept knocking the Knights off the platform and watched them plummet to their deaths.

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  • Lion Rampant boots on a Titan, and you can fly For days.

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  • Yeah I always complained about the Tangled Shore and how stepping off an asteroid caused you to fall down... into space. Where there is no source of gravity whatsoever.

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  • 由GUARDIAN-IX編輯: 1/12/2023 10:05:39 PM
    I always have problems with Gravity on Earth and any of the other planets... Damn architects. But yeah, what we would expect in space gravity is not present in the game; but hey, we got sound and music in the background lol. It is interesting on how our perceptions IRL are translated to the spatial relationships in a video game. The jumping puzzles make me nervous and I psych myself out in the microwave room. Cograts on the Flawless! Ya did it!

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  • The physics behind the station is baffling. But we still get “killed by the architects” from hitting our knees on a corner. So I guess that’s a good explanation. I even tried doing the Penny Wise dance and I still couldn’t float. Maybe If I had a red balloon.

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  • There’s no way you defeated gravity😠

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  • I remember in one of the halo games you had to go outside the ship and they reduced the force of gravity in that area so you could jump really long distances.

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  • Nice!

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  • Hello. I'm here to be unpopular. Your frustration is understandable but less justified than you think. Allow me to explain. The seraph station is in geosynchronous *near earth* orbit. That means it stays in the same place in the sky. Which means it is being held in place by some form of lift. Because if it were not, it would simply fall out of the sky and crash to earth. The reason why the ISS stays in orbit is because it is traveling at 4.76 miles per second above earth atmosphere, it has periodic station keeping burns to adjust its velocity and orbit because if it goes any faster its orbit will increase, widening the distance Between it and earth. Slower, and it will crash to earth. People aboard the space station experience a sensation similar to weightlessness because they are moving in the same speed and direction, but they are still falling towards earth. They're just moving so fast they are in a continuing state of missing the ground. If you stopped the ISS dead in the sky like Seraph station is, it would accelerate downward at 32 feet per second until it hit atmosphere and began disintegrating from fiction, acceleration continuing until the falling objects reach terminal velocity which is the speed at which an object ceases to accelerate due to atmospheric forces pushing back against you, ask any sky diver. So yes. Whatever space magic is keeping the Seraph station aloft, if it is not also keeping you aloft individually, you would absolutely be able to fall to your eventual death. That's why it was so important to place the John Webb telescope at a Lagrange point. Because effectively it is orbiting in such a way that it stands still. From our perception anyway. Another boring fact. You'd weigh more on the dark side of the moon than the side facing earth. Not a lot more, but measurably more. Anyway all objects that have a geostationary orbit around earth have an incredibly high orbit and are moving at tremendous speeds, you can actually measure time dilation on weather satellites so their internal clocks are set to run faster to compensate for time being perceived slower on earth. It's impossible for something to orbit that close and be geostationary without a continuous station keeping force. So. Yes. You should be able to fall off the station. That said. The people who designed this content absolutely do not know that, so just blame laziness.

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    • Well done on your flawless. I was making my first legit attempt at a solo flawless on legendary several hours ago. I definitely wasn't setting any speed records, that's for damn sure. Still, I managed to get past the brigs, the part I was certain would bring my flawless run to an abrupt halt. During the spacewalk, I reached the point where 2 hive knights were on the narrow platform hugging the side of the station. I put them down and was taking a moment to heal up a bit......BLAM! A -radio edit- sniper shank I hadn't noticed was there plugged me. Of all things, A SHANK! After I proceeded to use a multitude of words that aren't appropriate for church, I continued on to get my first solo completion on Legend. Honestly, I think I would've rather one of the knights stomped up and kicked me in the meat and potatoes, sending me plummeting back to Earth. So humiliating.

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      • lol, it’s Deep Stone Crypt but you can do it solo and it also gives you an exotic weapon that’s actually really good. I wish they would make it harder and turn it into a dungeon. That would be awesome, of course they’d probably never do that but it would be nice.

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        • Understand your frustration. But zero G combat would be even more frustrating.

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          • 由G0lden Hunt3r編輯: 1/12/2023 6:12:06 PM
            Thats how gravity works. We are above earth.

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            • I feel you Bro. Constantly missing on the outer space jumping challenge there as well. I can even nail down exactly the point where I failed so far. The part where you need to move out the three platforms. I always missed to jump from the second to the third one placed higher in the first attempt. And I'm already with my Lion Rampants. Anyway. This week another try. Question to the community. How do you kill the Hive Knight after the jumping section? I often get killed there as well. Gjallarhorn/Super didn't work well with the acolytes around. Thinking of bubble plus sword for my next attempt. Final boss no issues.

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              • 由BraddyBo編輯: 1/12/2023 9:50:19 AM
                Congratz. I did a few flawless runs a normal before I knew legend scaled, attempted my first legend solo run then died halfway through the final boss due to double coldsnaps freezing me and triple fire slams from the ads. I’ll try again next week when I finish the revision quest.

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              • Got going on Legend solo, but forgot my other XBox was logged into my account. One of the kids fired it up to play Forza and I was instantly booted. By the time I responded to the on screen prompts, I was dead. Perhaps next time. BTW, I have no idea why legend solo no death is important to me, it isn’t, just wanted to do it for S&Giggles…

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