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Edited by EzE_408:
11/11/2015 11:20:59 AM
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I said I run it with blessings? Are you dense? I said WITH blessings.
If you don't know what is or isn't a raid weapon then I feel bad for you, but judging by your comments it's clear how your knowledge of raiding is rather narrow.
You are the one who said you use 23 rounds of your sniper. Now you are saying you have leftovers?
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You actually said [quote] I use it all the time without a bubble. [/quote] which wouldn't work very well. Not really looking to get invoved but you did say without a bubble & that guy you're arguing with wants to know "how"? My outlook is spindle with weapons of light > ToM with blessing of light. UNLESS, the entire team is using ToM because then you aren't hindering them with blessings. If you were in my raid and you were selfishly using blessing of light to support a one man touch of malice, id probably swiftly remove you. it shows me poor teamwork. Ive done both strats.
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Thank you but there's no use he doesn't get what I'm asking
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lol I know, I tried.
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It takes you quoting the entire conversation for him to even understand and then he still doesn't answer my question -_-
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Edited by EzE_408: 11/11/2015 12:19:45 PMWell, when you aren't using a bubble wtf are you doing with it? Standing around? Do you not know how to melee to health regen? Is it not possible to 1 shot adds and let your health regen slowly/briefly. If no one else is using a malice or blessings then I will use my spindle or suggest everyone try their malice. When everyone uses their malice, DPS is increased usually across the board. Sometimes it takes a couple runs for them to get used to, but after doing so they usually switch permanently. LFG groups that is.
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[quote]Well, when you aren't using a bubble wtf are you doing with it? Standing around? Do you not know how to melee to health regen? Is it not possible to 1 shot adds and let your health regen slowly/briefly. If no one else is using a malice or blessings then I will use my spindle or suggest everyone try their malice. When everyone uses their malice, DPS is increased usually across the board. Sometimes it takes a couple runs for them to get used to, but after doing so they usually switch permanently. LFG groups that is.[/quote] Oh you edited, cute. My gun does x3 extra damage after killing one add. Why would I sacrifice my health for that? Too much high of a risk for hard mode raid. I also one shot adds after one kill. Also, I normally don't bring in stats but [quote] Do you not know how to melee to health regen? [/quote] I don't like your tone. I rather not take advice from someone mocking my survivability with a lower raid KD. I do just fine without it. Also, melee replenishes health? Shields perhaps with a titan and warlock but I main a hunter. Could go invis but all the time waiting between adds goes against my overall dps. Reactive Reload and Crowd Control is all I need to maintain [i]consistent[/i] damage, something a user with a ToM cannot do.
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[quote]Well, when you aren't using a bubble wtf you doing with it?[/quote] Are you following the conversation properly? Cause I don't quite understand. What are you doing with the Touch of Malice [i]without[/i] a bubble on War Priest? Here is your recap convo. Other guy: [quote]Now you explain that and I'll agree otherwise no [b]that gun serves no purpose for dps without that blessings of light [/b]and you know it I bet if you don't have a Titan in that raid you don't use it till sisters am I right?[/quote] Clearly talking about ToM. You: [quote]I said with blessings, which there usually is a Titan if I am not using mine.[/quote] Him: [quote]That's what I said [b]without that Titan bubble[/b] you won't be using that gun period[/quote] You: [quote]I [i]use[/i] it all the time [b]without[/b] a bubble. [/quote] So, how does that work? On War Priest. That's why the guy was confused.
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Answer me. What do you do with the malice when you aren't using the bubble? Should we all stand around and not kill adds?????
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[quote]Answer me. What do you do with the malice when you aren't using the bubble? Should we all stand around and not kill adds?????[/quote] Why should I answer you when you failed to answer me? I'll bite though. I don't use it. I have a better weapon for killing adds. (Crowd control and reactive reload) I only use it for sisters and Oryx and its a shitty gun for clearing adds so it's absolute torture. If my raid team wants to switch it up & use it for War Priest with a bubble, sure. Still sucks at add clearing but I don't mind changing things up a bit.
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Edited by EzE_408: 11/11/2015 12:47:55 PMFair enough. The problem is people being uncomfortable using it at 1 bullet. I get that, but once you do get used to it, it drops adds with one shot and does not consume any ammo. I run the middle. I prefer to do call outs or take the debuff and kill adds. I do that with my malice too. I also support the left and right sides ouf they are down a DPS and in general add support of need be. The malice hits like a truck if you can maintain it at 1 bullet.
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Meh, so does my legendary scout after a kill. I compared the two & the ToM just isn't something I can be bothered to do out of raid. Too risky.
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You know, out of all these posts. You are one of the few raid intelligent people on this post. Respectfully, good counter arguments.
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Edited by EzE_408: 11/11/2015 12:16:17 PMAdd me and again I will prove you wrong. Also, wtf u do when you run out of ammo? I can answer that because I see it all the time. You switch to a heavy or primary. I even had people die because they were popping special synths mid fight. Do you think someone is going to tell you they are out of special ammo?
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Edited by Defiler of sylok: 11/11/2015 11:07:08 AMAm I sense? What? My knowledge of raid weapons interesting super good advice wasn't a raid weapon used against oracles along with many other fusion rifles Apparently your the "dense" one here I told you by the time that he summons the oculus I have around four rounds left in my sniper theses not enough time to fully exhaust my ammo count And your still avoiding my question apparently your knowledge of basic answering skills is narrow now I will ask you again WITHOUT BLESSINGS OF LIGHT WHETHER OR NOT YOU SAID YOU USE IT WITH IT EVEN THOUGH YOU CHANGED AND SAID YOU RUN THE MALICE EVEN WITHOUT BLESSINGS OF LIGHT DO YOU STILL THINK YOU CAN OUT DPS MY 318 BLACK SPINDLE?? [b]without blessings of light[/b] I shouldn't have to repeat that but hopefully it gets through this time Your not defending this gun all your doing is further proving what the superior dps weapon is because you still need blessings of light to continuously shoot "My knowledge of raid weapons is narrow" that's -blam!-ing hilarious if it doesn't have the raid perk it's not a raid weapon narrow minded ass "oracle disrupter, hive disrupter or cocoon" any gun that doesn't have those perks are not raid weapons because they didn't come from the raid Exotics do not count because again the malice did not come from the raid it came from 45 calcified fragments -_- Excluding the nechrocasm Idr if it had the raid perk or not deleted it too fast
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Edited by EzE_408: 11/11/2015 11:26:11 AMTired of your idiocy. Add me. We will go into Warpriest and then you can shut your trap. I don't know what part of malice with blessings that you don't understand. Is it the malice part or the blessings part? Lol do you use a hawkmoon during raid? No, because it's ill equipped for raiding. Density.
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Actually I did use hawkmoon for my first raid on Atheon because it was the only good gun with high impact I had at the time and it worked well your point had been revoked by two people now I believe it's time to "shut your trap" and realize what I'm trying to ask you that you STILL avoid your one of those kids that has to be right so you win touch of malice does better damage [b]with[/b] blessings of light vs black spindle
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Hey scrub, go into Warpriest with me. Quit arguing and go in. Quit talking and put your money where your mouth is.
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Holy shit dude you died 29 times in one raid? I really hope you just can't jump Jesus!
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Edited by EzE_408: 11/11/2015 5:00:36 PMI teach learning groups. That is brand new people from LFG at times. Unlike most, I try to give back to the community. I try to take 2-5 new people, which requires a lot of wiping sometimes. I can actually go flawless in hard mode. I can run any position on all 3 characters (gazer, relic runner, debuff add killer, etc.). There is nothing I cannot do effectively. I also can run any method in the game (1-6 orb Golgoroth, kill Knights or don't Kill Knights, etc). Do you know how many people can't run 6 orbs on Golgoroth? When the new raids drop we teach ourselves. It makes you more of an asset to your raid group. Last night. We took two people through that requested help. One of the gentlemen had an infant who he had to tend to at a moments notice. Neither of them could jump on platforms and were afraid to do it, so we made them do until they were good at it. The second gentlemen had cleared sisters 1x, but didn't even understand how to activate one of the four platforms in sequential order. After a few wipes, we asked him how he cleared sisters on HM and he said his previous group told him to jump off the map so they could clear. If more groups took the time to teach there would be less wiping.
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I teach learning groups. That is brand new people from LFG. Unlike most, I try to give back to the community. teaching 4-5 new people requires a lot of wiping. I can actually go flawless in hard mode.
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You realize I said you won and am done arguing correct? And it took the other person quoting everything you said to even get a shred of what I was saying so why bother having you on my raid team? "Scrub" that's cute resorting to name calling your gonna call me a scrub when I have more raid completions top in kills in all my raids and have a higher raid kd in them as well But I'm a scrub? Interesting have fun guardian I'm out of here
