Welcome to humanity. Yet people think we can, on our own, become a peaceful global utopia. Fat chance...
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All we have to do is nuke Middle East
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What will that solve?
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Their problems
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And then we'll become the monster
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Depends on your poin of view
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The bad guys think like that too
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So do the "good" guys
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[quote]So do the "good" guys[/quote] There are none.
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Can't be bad without good.
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True. But it's not us that is good.
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Yeah it's the people killing our innocent civilians in they name of their gods. Those are the good guys
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[quote]Yeah it's the people killing our innocent civilians in they name of their gods. Those are the good guys[/quote] No different than those who want to nuke the whole Middle East regardless of the innocent casualties.
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You seem to think there are innocent people there.
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[quote]You seem to think there are innocent people there.[/quote] There are plenty, and they're getting massacred daily. You seem to not care enough to consider it or look into it.
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If our government sanctioned the beheading of "infidels" and we allowed it, none of us would be innocent.
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[quote]If our government sanctioned the beheading of "infidels" and we allowed it, none of us would be innocent.[/quote] Innocent of what? Also, most of the innocent people don't have the means to stand up to their governments. Also, for some of those countries, it's not the government sanctioning it, it's the radicals that do so, and they're too powerful for their governments to fight back.
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In Saudis Arabia people go to the city square to see the beheadings. They go to stone the adulterers. This is all federally sanctioned. That whole region is barbaric. The world would be better off it no longer existed. People seem to think that most individuals in the Middle East are victims. They may not be willing to kill themselves for the opportunity to kill "infidels". But they are brought up with the thought that anyone or anything that opposes them and their religion dominating the world is inherently evil. The region has not changed in thousands of years what makes you think that it will become any better? When getting rid of a cancer. You end up killing some of your healthy functioning cells. But it's worth it because you can still live.
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[quote]In Saudis Arabia people go to the city square to see the beheadings. They go to stone the adulterers. This is all federally sanctioned. That whole region is barbaric. The world would be better off it no longer existed.[/quote] Every country has federally sanctioned evil acts. Some put up a facade and hide it better than others. Ignorance is bliss right? Morals are subjective right? Just because a government or many of its people do it, doesn't mean the whole country is guilty of it. We only punished the N.a.z.i's (and even then, mostly the higher ranking ones). We didn't punish every German citizen for the crimes that the N.a.z.i's did. If we did, that in itself would be evil, unjust, and barbaric. [quote]People seem to think that most individuals in the Middle East are victims. They may not be willing to kill themselves for the opportunity to kill "infidels". But they are brought up with the thought that anyone or anything that opposes them and their religion dominating the world is inherently evil.[/quote] People seem to think that most individuals in the Middle East are evil and barbaric extremists. The fact is, not all of them are. Some of them want to kill the "infidels", some just want peace. According to my Spiritual beliefs, you, me, everyone is inherently wicked. Yet the God I love loved us enough to come down and suffer with us and die for us, knowing most would still reject Him. Either way, regardless of one's beliefs, opposing evil is a universal calling. Unfortunately, some choose to do it more extremely than others. And unfortunately, there are those who call what is evil as good and what is good as evil. Hate is the absence of love, and is the seed that can grow into the fruit of murder. That's why, in their hearts before God, anyone can be just as guilty as a murderer by hating someone, because they've given in to the temptation and have allowed that hate to already take root. Having an absence of love for those innocent of the extremist beliefs in that part of the world is stooping to the level of the extremists. The only difference is that they're just bold enough to act on it. Most of everyone else just puts up their facade and says "I hate that person, but I'm not a wicked person. I won't act on it, so that I can claim moral superiority over them. But I can still be a good person and hate that person at the same time." [quote]The region has not changed in thousands of years what makes you think that it will become any better? [/quote] I never said that I think it'll get better. But I'll tell you what, any one person who lives there and seeks to be a light in that darkness has a helluva lot more grit than you and I put together. [quote]When getting rid of a cancer. You end up killing some of your healthy functioning cells. But it's worth it because you can still live.[/quote] Congratulations. You just oversimplified and demeaned the value of the innocent lives in that region. That's also the same type of thinking as the extremists that don't give a second thought when massacring people. You're overgeneralizing who the enemy is, just like they do.
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Every day that we allow that region to continue as it is, more American citizens will die. I would sacrifice every single middle easterner to save one American
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[quote]Every day that we allow that region to continue as it is, more American citizens will die. I would sacrifice every single middle easterner to save one American[/quote] You sound just like the very monsters you hate.
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The world is not sunshine and daisies. Shit needs to get done. There are lose-lose scenarios. You can cry all you want. I will make the world a better place.
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Edited by ElementNinja: 6/15/2016 8:04:53 AM[quote]The world is not sunshine and daisies. Shit needs to get done. There are lose-lose scenarios. You can cry all you want. I will make the world a better place.[/quote] I never said it was sunshine and daisies. As I've stated, this world is a dark place. The only person here who is crying, or at least being immature, is you. I know kids with more common sense than you. What a rotten hypocrite you are. Unashamed of it too. On the contrary, you're already making it worse. But if course, you're too veiled to realize that your hubris is getting the best of you. You know nothing of how the world works. You obviously haven't devoted any critical thought towards mistakes and decisions in history and their implications. You haven't even thought about how all the terrorist cells around the world would catch us with our pants down should the US make a decision as brash as yours, causing even more American casualties.
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If everyone in the Middle East ceased to exist the world would be a better place. Just think for a second what the lives people that live there are like. Most don't oppose acts of violence against the west. Those that do don't do it openly. Their lives are inconsequential. They live in their huts. -blam!- young boys. Sell off their daughters. The do nothing to make the world a better place. They live like animals. In fact, they aren't living, [u]they are waiting to die[/u]. I would openly welcome a world peace. But that is not possible with the Middle East in the state that it is. And like I said before. Us before them.
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[quote]If everyone in the Middle East ceased to exist the world would be a better place.[/quote] How racist and bigoted of you to say that. How do you not see the evil in what you're saying. [quote]Just think for a second what the lives people that live there are like. Most don't oppose acts of violence against the west. Those that do don't do it openly. Their lives are inconsequential. They live in their huts. -blam!- young boys. Sell off their daughters. The do nothing to make the world a better place. They live like animals. In fact, they aren't living, [u]they are waiting to die[/u].[/quote] You don't oppose acts of violence against the Middle East. Your life is as inconsequential as any one of theirs. There's plenty of trafficking here in our own country that you hardly bother to be aware of. You continuously demean their human lives. If there was a higher percentage of people who thought like you in this country, we'd be just like them. Interesting that you've never denied your hypocrisy or depravity. [quote]I would openly welcome a world peace. But that is not possible with the Middle East in the state that it is. And like I said before. Us before them.[/quote] World peace is impossible. Especially with your philosophy. You're just a blind bigot.
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[quote]the world is a dark place[/quote] [quote]you don't oppose violence against the Middle East[/quote] Either you are a hypocrite or you think that this problem will be solved diplomatically. With countries that at best can't control their own citizens, at worst openly state they will nuke the United States given the chance? And you are severely mistaken if you think that liberties are violated more anywhere else in the world.