Thorn doesnt need a catalyst, le monarque DEFINITELY doesnt need a catalyst, most guns do not need a catalyst to be good.

Yeah agreed. In fact I’d say all exotic weapons should have one by definition.

How about with the TLW cat , it's opposite of DMT , where aiming down sights slows fire rate and increases precision damage

Not all exotics need or should get catalysts... That being said all exotics should drop orbs by default, the catalyst should only be there to supplement or strengthen the exotic perk of the weapon.

With last word catalyst have it where you where a cowboy hat

Le monarque yes i agrée. bring back Outbreak

If the catalysts released since BL are anything to go by, the only weapons that will get catalysts will be the season pass exotic, the seasonal quest exotic, and one weapon from before S12. Unfortunately, all 3 weapons from before S12 to get catalysts so far were heavy weapons no one used as anything but a joke weapon if that. If they're going to keep up with this pattern, the next weapon will be another heavy weapon. Truth (high usage in Gambit) Two Tailed Fox (bugged right now, top DPS weapon, considering LoW got one the season after it was so badly bugged that it was essentially a burst fire sniper for a month, my money is on this) Thunderlord (when was the last time you've seen this?) 1K Voices (powerful, not optimal) Anarchy (with Breach and Clear this season, it's already high usage in endgame PVE skyrocketed) Queenbreaker (haven't seen this since S4) Xenophage (top DPS weapon, effective in Gambit) Edit: Forgot EOT, but why should that get a catalyst before any of the other raid weapons?

Desperately want the outbreak catalyst.