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Editado por Bieltan: 4/3/2019 7:28:39 PM
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[quote][spoiler]if I get banned for saying this I might leave b.net for good We have Gay pride month Black history month Women’s history month Transgender day But not even a day for white males. If we are pushing for equality why are we leaving people out? No I’m not a white supremacist. I could care less who you are or what color your skin is.[/spoiler][/quote] Gonna go out on a limb here, but [i]maybe[/i] thats because White Males have never been systematically oppressed because of their race or sex. History classes are almost exclusively about White history, White culture is default for the vast majority of media... I mean, the list really does go on. You dont notice it because to you thats just normal, and in a White majority country, thats not really a surprise either. Also, after centuries of being told they dont exist, cant have the same kind of rights as straight people, got thrown in jail, assaulted and sometimes killed for not being straight etc etc I'm not sure why gay folk arent allowed to celebrate the social acceptance they have gained? I dunno man, I really hope that was b8.
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  • Editado por RokNBrokN: 4/4/2019 4:00:44 PM
    The issue comes to, at this point in time when there is equal* representation why should we celebrate the people that are as a large majority no longer being oppressed? Then the question comes if we are going to celebrate those that are almost no longer being oppressed why not just celebrate all genders and ethnicities? If the goal is to be equal these people aren't using the proper use of the word. *I should really say accurate there are less gay people than straight and even less for the more out there "genders." so of course they will have less of an overall presence. [spoiler]Sorry if I got some of the vocabulary wrong, gender, sex, and ethnicity have kinda been changing meaning in recent times.[/spoiler]

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  • When gayness has to be explicitly stated in order to prevent assumed straightness in media, and theres no wave of butthurt about said gayness, then we might start to think theres equal representation... 🤷‍♂️

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  • Editado por RokNBrokN: 4/4/2019 4:00:27 PM
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  • Editado por Virus: 4/4/2019 7:23:33 AM
    Hey if we wanna talk about the oppressed who were thrown in jail, and killed just because they believed in something or were something... Where’s our communist appreciation day? Or anarchist appreciation day? What did you forget the red scare? Did you forget the Spanish revolution? My kind (anarcho communists) have been labeled as terrorists because we believe in total equality. We’ve been hunted and gunned down by fascists, soviets, and blaming [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]. But you don’t see an ancom appreciation day. So kindly -blam- off with this shit.

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  • You guys are part of the general commemorations of those events. I'm sure that the grassroots movements in the USA have their own "days" (and if not, why not?) but seeing as Communism is still the political boogeyman in American society, you wont get much of a push. Funnily enough, you can lay all of that scaremongering at the feet of Republicans. If you can get the US Right Wingers to stop using you as a political smear, maybe you might find some empathy once people understand you and what you want better.

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  • Hehehe... right wingers.... you immediately shoved the blame off of the left and too the right, but both of you are the problem. Liberals were the ones who destroyed anarcho communists in Spain, and are the main group who spread the propaganda against communism, saying the Soviet’s were communist (despite the fact they were actually socialist and hadn’t yet reached communism) and overall labeled us as terrorists and threats. Lemme give you a history lesson on equality. In the late 1920s Catalonia & Aragón were under Anarchists control. All men & women were equal, both socially and economically. Women could have abortions and people could marry who ever they damn well pleased. There were no gender roles, no 1%, and no oppression. This was all achieved by the CNT-FAI. An organization you leftists now deem terrorists. You preach about equality on a social level, but don’t care for it on an economic, and only push for it when it suits your benefits. By creating these holidays you’ve alienated people from each other, and created more barriers between humanity. You’ve single handedly alienated straight white men, who are tired of your leftist propaganda being forced down their throats in the false disguise of the celebration of individuality. You’ve chosen to celebrate people not for their personal achievements or their personality, but instead by things such as their sexual preferences, or natural skin color, or what they have between their legs. This is both alienating and also dehumanizing, and it needs to stop for equality to be achieved. Focus your energy on economic equality, and by that I don’t mean the “wage gap” I mean the upper class vs the working class.

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  • [quote]Hehehe... right wingers.... you immediately shoved the blame off of the left and too the right, but both of you are the problem. Liberals were the ones who destroyed anarcho communists in Spain, and are the main group who spread the propaganda against communism, saying the Soviet’s were communist (despite the fact they were actually socialist and hadn’t yet reached communism) and overall labeled us as terrorists and threats. Lemme give you a history lesson on equality. In the late 1920s Catalonia & Aragón were under Anarchists control. All men & women were equal, both socially and economically. Women could have abortions and people could marry who ever they damn well pleased. There were no gender roles, no 1%, and no oppression. This was all achieved by the CNT-FAI. An organization you leftists now deem terrorists.[/quote] Who was it who shoved them out of power? The Librul SJW Rainbow party? [quote]You preach about equality on a social level, but don’t care for it on an economic, and only push for it when it suits your benefits. By creating these holidays you’ve alienated people from each other, and created more barriers between humanity. You’ve single handedly alienated straight white men, who are tired of your leftist propaganda being forced down their throats in the false disguise of the celebration of individuality. You’ve chosen to celebrate people not for their personal achievements or their personality, but instead by things such as their sexual preferences, or natural skin color, or what they have between their legs. This is both alienating and also dehumanizing, and it needs to stop for equality to be achieved. Focus your energy on economic equality, and by that I don’t mean the “wage gap” I mean the upper class vs the working class.[/quote] Pride days are for LGBTQ to celebrate their social acceptance, however much you try to push your own narrative. Black History month gives an entire displaced demographic the chance to actually learn about their roots. Heres the thing, the only one boiling it down to "Hooray, you're black/gay!!1!" here is you. And what is worse is you are doing it wilfully because [i]you[/i] want to play the victim. [spoiler]isnt that what "SJWs" do? 🤔[/spoiler]

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  • [quote] Who was it who shoved them out of power? The Librul SJW Rainbow party? [/quote] Technically no, but it is the party that the “librul SJW rainbow party” is built upon. [quote]Pride days are for LGBTQ to celebrate their social acceptance, however much you try to push your own narrative.[/quote] Yes, THEIR social acceptance, those days are made for them to feel accepted, but where’s the straight pride day? Where straight people can feel accepted in a society that has begun demonizing them. The LGBTQ community is founded upon an Us vs Them idea. Say what you will about me pushing my narrative, but that’s what everyone has to do, it’s what your liberal media does all the time. It’s how communism became the bogeyman of America. [quote]Black History month gives an entire displaced demographic the chance to actually learn about their roots.[/quote] Now if I remember correctly, black history month is more about black people fighting for independence in America, and their struggle against segregation. Now this is a major part of US history, it’s taught in schools. Additionally if you view black history month as a chance for a “displaced” demographic to learn about their roots, then you still see black people as displaced, and not as Americans. [quote]Heres the thing, the only one boiling it down to "Hooray, you're black/gay!!1!" here is you. And what is worse is you are doing it wilfully because [i]you[/i] want to play the victim. [spoiler]isnt that what "SJWs" do? 🤔[/spoiler][/quote] Okay, let’s say I am wanting to play the victim, why wouldn’t I be allowed to? Hmm? I’ve got every right to do so. So go ahead call me, the anarcho communist, an SJW. At least I see people as who they are not what they are. Also, I’m not boiling it down to “hooray you’re black/gay” I’m pointing out how it’s built around the idea of “hooray you’re black/gay.”

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  • [quote]Technically no, but it is the party that the “librul SJW rainbow party” is built upon.[/quote] Nope, Franco was (drum roll please) a Nationalist Conservative. Nice revisionism though. [quote]Yes, THEIR social acceptance, those days are made for them to feel accepted, but where’s the straight pride day? Where straight people can feel accepted in a society that has begun demonizing them.[/quote] Until straight people are assaulted and/or murdered for their sexuality, denied social rights, told their sexuality is an illness, an abomination, they arent demonized. In media, fiction or otherwise, straightness is assumed unless explicitly stated otherwise. In politics, straight politicians routinely parade their family as a show of "wholesomeness" whereas gay politicians arent afforded that same luxury - it gets turned against them, or is seen as a rebuke to someone. Stating straight people are in any way demonized is downright ridiculous. Straight people dont need a -blam!-ing pride day, our acceptance is total LOL. No, what happens is overly sensitive straight people who cant handle LGBTQ folk finally being able to celebrate acceptance get mocked. You arent demonized for your sexuality, you get trolled for being a pillock. [quote]The LGBTQ community is founded upon an Us vs Them idea. Say what you will about me pushing my narrative, but that’s what everyone has to do, it’s what your liberal media does all the time. It’s how communism became the bogeyman of America.[/quote] And you think the mental scarring of centuries of social and religious oppression just disappears, just like that? Especially in the face of ongoing bigotry and attempts at oppression? Please. 🙄 [quote]Now if I remember correctly, black history month is more about black people fighting for independence in America, and their struggle against segregation. Now this is a major part of US history, it’s taught in schools. Additionally if you view black history month as a chance for a “displaced” demographic to learn about their roots, then you still see black people as displaced, and not as Americans.[/quote] And what is America, if not a country of immigrants? Everyone else knows their roots. Not Black people though. They have the vague prefix of "African" to go on. Thing is, Africa is an entire continent, with a lot of different cultures. That vague prefix is a reminder that they dont know their actual roots, unlike Italian Americans, Irish Americans, Greeks, Scots etc etc. Need I go on? Maybe, just maybe, your schools are teaching the wrong thing for that month - the Emancipation Proclamation etc should be standard learning, not specialised, no? [quote]Okay, let’s say I am wanting to play the victim, why wouldn’t I be allowed to? Hmm? I’ve got every right to do so. So go ahead call me, the anarcho communist, an SJW. At least I see people as who they are not what they are.[/quote] Maybe from the point of your political views. Not many take the time to actually understand them. For being White, Male or Straight? Nah man, thats silly talk lol. [quote]Also, I’m not boiling it down to “hooray you’re black/gay” I’m pointing out how it’s built around the idea of “hooray you’re black/gay.”[/quote] Its really not. At least, not to those who actually understand it, which is most people. 🤷‍♂️

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  • First off, Franco was a fascist. So... yeah... he wasn’t the liberal party involved. Second, you called people of my race and sexuality stupid. That’s racist and sexists.... you’re a scumbag Thirdly, Emojis? Really? Fourth, The Us v.s. Them idea of the LGBTQ has decided that the Them is straight cis men, instead of ...oh idk... THE BLAMING GOVERNMENT OR CHURCH! Fifth, White cis gendered men are 100% being demonized and mistreated, and you seem 100% okay with that, because, it’s not as bad as what happened to blacks or gays? That’s not an excuse. Just because we haven’t been put through the same things, doesn’t mean we deserve to be put through this kind of abuse by you. Don’t try and justify the abuse of one people with the previous abuse of another. Do I deserve to be held responsible for what white people did to slaves? No! I didn’t do it. The sins of the father are not on the hands of the son. Sixth, you mention that all Americans know where they come from. That’s a blatant lie. The Irish are only slightly expanded upon, the Spanish are largely ignored, the French and English are the most explained, and the Dutch are never even talked about, neither are the Swedes or the Norwegian. So don’t try to give me that whole spiel about how black people aren’t told about where they come from, because NEITHER AM I! I’m mostly Dutch! I don’t know shit about how the Dutch came here, or why. I know more about Africa then I do my own lineage. And most will say the same. Seventh. As a matter of fact, I can play the victim card for a straight white man... wanna know why? Because my family on both sides, fought and died for your ass to be here complaining. My great grandpas on both sides fought in ww2, against fascists. My family has paid for this country with blood. So at the very least, they should be given the respect they deserve, as the straight white men they were

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  • [quote]First off, Franco was a fascist. So... yeah... he wasn’t the liberal party involved.[/quote] And he was the ruler after the Anarcho-Communists were toppled. [quote]Second, you called people of my race and sexuality stupid. That’s racist and sexists.... you’re a scumbag[/quote] Did I? Where? [quote]Thirdly, Emojis? Really?[/quote] 🙄 [quote]Fourth, The Us v.s. Them idea of the LGBTQ has decided that the Them is straight cis men, instead of ...oh idk... THE BLAMING GOVERNMENT OR CHURCH![/quote] Now tell me who was in charge of both? LGBTQ folk dont hate all straight people, or whites, or men. Just the Racist, Bigoted ones who wronged them, and the demographic who keep trying to oppress them. [quote]Fifth, White cis gendered men are 100% being demonized and mistreated, and you seem 100% okay with that, because, it’s not as bad as what happened to blacks or gays? That’s not an excuse. Just because we haven’t been put through the same things, doesn’t mean we deserve to be put through this kind of abuse by you. Don’t try and justify the abuse of one people with the previous abuse of another. Do I deserve to be held responsible for what white people did to slaves? No! I didn’t do it. The sins of the father are not on the hands of the son.[/quote] Give me an example? Because all I hear is your fee fees cant accept the sins of your forebears. If they werent on the hands of the son, I wouldnt still be dealing with the fallout of the recent economic crash. The young adults of the 1930's wouldnt have dealt with The Great Depression. [quote]Sixth, you mention that all Americans know where they come from. That’s a blatant lie. The Irish are only slightly expanded upon, the Spanish are largely ignored, the French and English are the most explained, and the Dutch are never even talked about, neither are the Swedes or the Norwegian. So don’t try to give me that whole spiel about how black people aren’t told about where they come from, because NEITHER AM I! I’m mostly Dutch! I don’t know shit about how the Dutch came here, or why. I know more about Africa then I do my own lineage. And most will say the same.[/quote] You know the specific country you come from as opposed to just the continent? You're already ahead lol. [quote]Seventh. As a matter of fact, I can play the victim card for a straight white man... wanna know why? Because my family on both sides, fought and died for your ass to be here complaining. My great grandpas on both sides fought in ww2, against fascists. My family has paid for this country with blood. So at the very least, they should be given the respect they deserve, as the straight white men they were[/quote] Veterans Day, D-Day, and the numerous war memorial days dont exist then? Again, you're becoming illogical.

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  • [quote][quote][spoiler]if I get banned for saying this I might leave b.net for good We have Gay pride month Black history month Women’s history month Transgender day But not even a day for white males. If we are pushing for equality why are we leaving people out? No I’m not a white supremacist. I could care less who you are or what color your skin is.[/spoiler][/quote] Gonna go out on a limb here, but [i]maybe[/i] thats because White Males have never been systematically oppressed because of their race or sex. History classes are almost exclusively about White history, White culture is default for the vast majority of media... I mean, the list really does go on. You dont notice it because to you thats just normal, and in a White majority country, thats not really a surprise either. Also, after centuries of being told they dont exist, cant have the same kind of rights as straight people, got thrown in jail, assaulted and sometimes killed for not being straight etc etc I'm not sure why gay folk arent allowed to celebrate the social acceptance they have gained? I dunno man, I really hope that was b8.[/quote] Hey genius, ever heard of affirmative action? Literally textbook systemic racism as you like to call it. Maybe history classes are predominantly about white history because hmmm.... idk, America is predominantly white? I wouldn’t expect Kenya for example to teach their students about the renaissance. Told they don’t exist? Lmao what? White people STILL get killed in the Middle East and Africa for... get this... BEING WHITE. Get out of here with your bullshit “moral high ground”.

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  • Editado por Bieltan: 4/4/2019 8:19:10 AM
    [quote][quote][quote][spoiler]if I get banned for saying this I might leave b.net for good We have Gay pride month Black history month Women’s history month Transgender day But not even a day for white males. If we are pushing for equality why are we leaving people out? No I’m not a white supremacist. I could care less who you are or what color your skin is.[/spoiler][/quote] Gonna go out on a limb here, but [i]maybe[/i] thats because White Males have never been systematically oppressed because of their race or sex. History classes are almost exclusively about White history, White culture is default for the vast majority of media... I mean, the list really does go on. You dont notice it because to you thats just normal, and in a White majority country, thats not really a surprise either. Also, after centuries of being told they dont exist, cant have the same kind of rights as straight people, got thrown in jail, assaulted and sometimes killed for not being straight etc etc I'm not sure why gay folk arent allowed to celebrate the social acceptance they have gained? I dunno man, I really hope that was b8.[/quote] Hey genius, ever heard of affirmative action? Literally textbook systemic racism as you like to call it. Maybe history classes are predominantly about white history because hmmm.... idk, America is predominantly white? I wouldn’t expect Kenya for example to teach their students about the renaissance.[/quote] ...except that AA was brought [i]in[/i] to actually tackle existing systemic racism lmao. Also, the rest of this paragraph was acknowledged in my post. Well aware of this, thanks. You know what America has that no other country does though? An entire demographic that is unaware of its own roots. Hence why Black History month is a thing. [quote]Told they don’t exist? Lmao what?[/quote] Transgender has only just been acknowledged, relatively speaking. Care to show otherwise? [quote]White people STILL get killed in the Middle East and Africa for... get this... BEING WHITE. Get out of here with your bullshit “moral high ground”.[/quote] Yes, and gay people are set to be stoned to death in Brunei etc etc. Why do people start waving this shit around like some kind of revelation? Maybe once some of those countries become developed, or drop the Theocracy/Theocratic leanings, they might just start taking a look at themselves, and rebalancing their society in kind. In the meantime, the Western world, as a free society, is currently facing up to its own past ills. The blunt fact here is that we are doing the very thing which is the logical conclusion of your whataboutism, and you have a problem with it. [spoiler]although this is said whilst completely disregarding the ill feeling generated by continuous political meddling, military interventions in the middle east, and the spectre of colonialism that still hangs heavy in africa.[/spoiler]

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  • Editado por Neko Neko Nya: 4/4/2019 8:30:11 AM
    Which unironically CREATED another systemic racism system. Favoring anybody over others based upon things they can’t change is racist, plain and simple. What are you talking about? Last time I checked the requirements for passing high school was 3.5 credits cumulative of US history AND WORLD history. Not white man history. Sorry to break it to ya bud but you’re on thin ice. If you don’t know your heritage that’s your own damn fault. Elaborate. I’m not going to comment on an incredibly vague statement only to have you specify afterwards to try to make me look bad. See the problem with your ideology is that you think the sins of the father befall the son and even in our legal system, it isn’t true. Bottom line I’ll admit the US has a problem if 1 of 2 things happen. 1. People start to hold other countries genuinely accountable for crimes against white people *cough cough* Barbary slave trade *cough cough* South Africa slaughtering white farmers 2. You stop with the “white man bad” bullshit and start acknowledging a more common enemy, say the lawmakers who made such horrible laws to begin with. I guarantee if you collectively drop the white guilt pressure you’ll find a lot more people willing to rally to your cause. Nobody wants to be told they are the oppressor, ESPECIALLY when they themselves feel oppressed/are going through struggles of their own.

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  • [quote]Which unironically CREATED another systemic racism system. Favoring anybody over others based upon things they can’t change is racist, plain and simple.[/quote] Tell that to the folk who necessitated it to begin with lol, you cant be selective over this. No systemic racism? No Affirmative Action. [quote]What are you talking about? Last time I checked the requirements for passing high school was 3.5 credits cumulative of US history AND WORLD history. Not white man history. Sorry to break it to ya bud but you’re on thin ice. If you don’t know your heritage that’s your own damn fault.[/quote] Last I checked, history curriculums were pretty much Romans, Celts, Ancient Greece, World War 2 (which is pretty Euro-centric) the American Civil War, the Great Depression, the Booming '20s... I mean I could go on. It wasnt until I started reading books independantly of education that I learned about Sumeria, Persia, the Arab Empire, Chinese history... Fact is, history curriculums are, and have been, White-centric. Again, I know we're talking in terms of a White majority society. The thing is, you have a whole demographic that doesnt know its own roots, and you know [i]why[/i] they dont, and who is responsible. I'm not sure why you'd want to perpetuate that. [quote]Elaborate. I’m not going to comment on an incredibly vague statement only to have you specify afterwards to try to make me look bad.[/quote] Nope, you first. [quote]See the problem with your ideology is that you think the sins of the father befall the son and even in our legal system, it isn’t true.[/quote] That doesnt make the social trauma of centuries of oppression just disappear. In the real world, we inherit the problems created by our forebears, thats how life goes buddy. Is it fair people had a shit life during the great depression? No. But they addressed the problem as best they could. [quote]Bottom line I’ll admit the US has a problem if 1 of 2 things happen. 1. People start to hold other countries genuinely accountable for crimes against white people *cough cough* Barbary slave trade *cough cough* South Africa slaughtering white farmers[/quote] Regarding the Barbary Slave trade, you'd probably need to get rid of the Autocratic Theocracies in the Islamic world before you'll get much of an apology there. Funny thing - Arab rulers arent very popular amongst Liberals. As for South Africa, Colonialism? Yeah if we're talking "Sins of the forefathers"... [quote]2. You stop with the “white man bad” bullshit and start acknowledging a more common enemy, say the lawmakers who made such horrible laws to begin with. I guarantee if you collectively drop the white guilt pressure you’ll find a lot more people willing to rally to your cause. Nobody wants to be told they are the oppressor, ESPECIALLY when they themselves feel oppressed/are going through struggles of their own.[/quote] To think its "White Man Bad" as opposed to "Racists and Bigots are Bad". 🙄 The truth, which you find intensely uncomfortable, is that said Racists and Bigots were, and are, overwhelmingly White, and made those laws to benefit White, Male and Straight. Does that reflect on all White people? No. Does it help that people like David Duke actually get into positions of power in this day and age? Also no. Just because I acknowledge this doesnt mean I hate White people. It means I acknowledge that the wrong people are clinging on to power they shouldnt have. Knee-jerking towards White Nationalism (not you personally), "We should have Straight Pride day", "Where is White History month" is hugely counter-productive and plays straight into the hands of those horrendous lawmakers. Anyone who thinks like that makes themselves part of the problem.

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  • [ Orrrrrrr you could just not be racist and hire based on merit. Before you say anything else I want you to know I am technically a protected class under AA. And I still think it’s bullshit. So good luck changing my mind. World war 2 being Eurocentric? LMFAO are you actually serious? Japan lasted longer than Germany did and had arguably more deaths than the Eastern and western front combined(learned that in HS btw). Not to mention the African campaign as well. I learned about Persia in 6th grade and the Chinese empire in 7th. It sounds like you had an issue with your school not teaching the required coursework, not a systemic problem. And again, it sounds like an individual school issue, not a curriculum. I went to public schools and learned about the Huns, and the pyramids/ Mesopotamia. -blam!- I even was taught stuff relating to Pangea. Remember: I went to public school. Don’t push this bullshit narrative that schools don’t teach these kinds of classes because I know for a fact that’s false. Apparently you can’t read because I said wasn’t going to comment if you didn’t clarify first. Glad to see where you stand on that issue. Moving on. Because metaphorically lynching the whites for something they’ve never done is a valid tactic to promote peaceful change. This line of reasoning is EXACTLY why Trump won. Don’t want to see it my way? Have fun with back to back terms buddy. Funny, you could have fooled me with how ravenously liberals defend Muslims and their culture. Because killing the only people with the knowledge to grow enough food to sustain the population works sooooooooo well to promote equality. Look how that worked in [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/africa/458137/mugabe-is-asking-back-the-white-farmers-he-chased-away/amp/]Zimbabwe[/url] lmao. [quote]The truth, which you find intensely uncomfortable, is that said Racists and Bigots were, and are, overwhelmingly White, and made those laws to benefit White, Male and Straight. Does that reflect on all White people? No. Does it help that people like David Duke actually get into positions of power in this day and age? Also no. [/quote] I haven’t seen such a clueless, hypocritical post in a very long time. Bigots were overwhelmingly white? You talk as if other races don’t have blood on their hands which is, unironically in your case, racist. You don’t wanna collectively change your political views, fine. But don’t scratch your head when white nationalism becomes a problem again. I’ve told you already how to fix it and you said no. Also counterproductive are the people that say “there’s 12 months for that”. The street cuts both ways buddy. If it were up to me I’d say to hell with any “months” or days.

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  • [quote]Orrrrrrr you could just not be racist and hire based on merit. Before you say anything else I want you to know I am technically a protected class under AA. And I still think it’s bullshit. So good luck changing my mind.[/quote] Unfortunately that wasnt the case, ergo it was required. These things dont come about for shits and giggles. [quote]World war 2 being Eurocentric? LMFAO are you actually serious? Japan lasted longer than Germany did and had arguably more deaths than the Eastern and western front combined(learned that in HS btw). Not to mention the African campaign as well.[/quote] Other than Japan, all WW2s major players were European, or Euro-derivatives. So yes, it was Euro-centric. [quote]And again, it sounds like an individual school issue, not a curriculum. I went to public schools and learned about the Huns, and the pyramids/ Mesopotamia. -blam!- I even was taught stuff relating to Pangea. Remember: I went to public school. Don’t push this bullshit narrative that schools don’t teach these kinds of classes because I know for a fact that’s false.[/quote] And how long ago did you finish school? Pangea is pretty standard, but primordial history is a moot point. [quote]Apparently you can’t read because I said wasn’t going to comment if you didn’t clarify first. Glad to see where you stand on that issue. Moving on.[/quote] We've established that you cant disprove what I said. Because it was a pretty crystal clear question to you. [quote]Because metaphorically lynching the whites for something they’ve never done is a valid tactic to promote peaceful change. This line of reasoning is EXACTLY why Trump won. Don’t want to see it my way? Have fun with back to back terms buddy.[/quote] I'm white, straight and male and at no point have I felt "metaphorically lynched". But then I guess I'm not so delicate when it comes to introspection, and its telling that those who [i]are[/i], are quick to call others Snowflakes lol [quote]Funny, you could have fooled me with how ravenously liberals defend Muslims and their culture.[/quote] Yes, thats why Liberals have been campaigning for human rights and petitioning our leaders to call our middle eastern "allies" out on their bullshit for [i]decades[/i] now. 🙄 Its the absolute peak of intellectual dishonesty to accuse people who refuse to mix up terrorist radicals who claim a particular religion with genuine followers of the faith as "ravenously defending Muslim culture" which is clearly defined by you as all the aforementioned bullshit isnt it? You wouldnt have brought it up as a negative otherwise... I see you showing your true colours there pal. [quote]Because killing the only people with the knowledge to grow enough food to sustain the population works sooooooooo well to promote equality. Look how that worked in [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/africa/458137/mugabe-is-asking-back-the-white-farmers-he-chased-away/amp/]Zimbabwe[/url] lmao.[/quote] I never said it was wise or rational. Just unsurprising and inevitable. [quote]The truth, which you find intensely uncomfortable, is that said Racists and Bigots were, and are, overwhelmingly White, and made those laws to benefit White, Male and Straight. Does that reflect on all White people? No. Does it help that people like David Duke actually get into positions of power in this day and age? Also no. [/quote] I haven’t seen such a clueless, hypocritical post in a very long time. Bigots were overwhelmingly white? You talk as if other races don’t have blood on their hands which is, unironically in your case, racist.[/quote] But we arent talking about other societies really are we? We're talking about Western society. Whataboutism doesnt change any of that, and unless you can show that in Western history straight white men havent oppressed gays and POCs both at home AND abroad, then yes its true. Doesnt mean that straight white men are innately evil lol, and thats a narrative I only hear coming from White Nationalists or anyone naive enough to swallow their doublethink. [quote]You don’t wanna collectively change your political views, fine. But don’t scratch your head when white nationalism becomes a problem again. I’ve told you already how to fix it and you said no.[/quote] Yes, learning about other cultures and letting LGBTQ celebrate their degree of acceptance is the driving force behind White Nationalism. Sure bud. 🙄 [quote]Also counterproductive are the people that say “there’s 12 months for that”. The street cuts both ways buddy. If it were up to me I’d say to hell with any “months” or days.[/quote] I dont see anything wrong with a celebration, whether or not its about me 🤷‍♂️

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  • [quote][quote]Orrrrrrr you could just not be racist and hire based on merit. Before you say anything else I want you to know I am technically a protected class under AA. And I still think it’s bullshit. So good luck changing my mind.[/quote] Unfortunately that wasnt the case, ergo it was required. These things dont come about for shits and giggles. [quote]World war 2 being Eurocentric? LMFAO are you actually serious? Japan lasted longer than Germany did and had arguably more deaths than the Eastern and western front combined(learned that in HS btw). Not to mention the African campaign as well.[/quote] Other than Japan, all WW2s major players were European, or Euro-derivatives. So yes, it was Euro-centric. [quote]And again, it sounds like an individual school issue, not a curriculum. I went to public schools and learned about the Huns, and the pyramids/ Mesopotamia. -blam!- I even was taught stuff relating to Pangea. Remember: I went to public school. Don’t push this bullshit narrative that schools don’t teach these kinds of classes because I know for a fact that’s false.[/quote] And how long ago did you finish school? Pangea is pretty standard, but primordial history is a moot point. [quote]Apparently you can’t read because I said wasn’t going to comment if you didn’t clarify first. Glad to see where you stand on that issue. Moving on.[/quote] We've established that you cant disprove what I said. Because it was a pretty crystal clear question to you. [quote]Because metaphorically lynching the whites for something they’ve never done is a valid tactic to promote peaceful change. This line of reasoning is EXACTLY why Trump won. Don’t want to see it my way? Have fun with back to back terms buddy.[/quote] I'm white, straight and male and at no point have I felt "metaphorically lynched". But then I guess I'm not so delicate when it comes to introspection, and its telling that those who [i]are[/i], are quick to call others Snowflakes lol [quote]Funny, you could have fooled me with how ravenously liberals defend Muslims and their culture.[/quote] Yes, thats why Liberals have been campaigning for human rights and petitioning our leaders to call our middle eastern "allies" out on their bullshit for [i]decades[/i] now. 🙄 Its the absolute peak of intellectual dishonesty to accuse people who refuse to mix up terrorist radicals who claim a particular religion with genuine followers of the faith as "ravenously defending Muslim culture" which is clearly defined by you as all the aforementioned bullshit isnt it? You wouldnt have brought it up as a negative otherwise... I see you showing your true colours there pal. [quote]Because killing the only people with the knowledge to grow enough food to sustain the population works sooooooooo well to promote equality. Look how that worked in [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/africa/458137/mugabe-is-asking-back-the-white-farmers-he-chased-away/amp/]Zimbabwe[/url] lmao.[/quote] I never said it was wise or rational. Just unsurprising and inevitable. [quote]The truth, which you find intensely uncomfortable, is that said Racists and Bigots were, and are, overwhelmingly White, and made those laws to benefit White, Male and Straight. Does that reflect on all White people? No. Does it help that people like David Duke actually get into positions of power in this day and age? Also no. [/quote] I haven’t seen such a clueless, hypocritical post in a very long time. Bigots were overwhelmingly white? You talk as if other races don’t have blood on their hands which is, unironically in your case, racist.[/quote] But we arent talking about other societies really are we? We're talking about Western society. Whataboutism doesnt change any of that, and unless you can show that in Western history straight white men havent oppressed gays and POCs both at home AND abroad, then yes its true. Doesnt mean that straight white men are innately evil lol, and thats a narrative I only hear coming from White Nationalists or anyone naive enough to swallow their doublethink. [quote]You don’t wanna collectively change your political views, fine. But don’t scratch your head when white nationalism becomes a problem again. I’ve told you already how to fix it and you said no.[/quote] Yes, learning about other cultures and letting LGBTQ celebrate their degree of acceptance is the driving force behind White Nationalism. Sure bud. 🙄 [quote]Also counterproductive are the people that say “there’s 12 months for that”. The street cuts both ways buddy. If it were up to me I’d say to hell with any “months” or days.[/quote] I dont see anything wrong with a celebration, whether or not its about me 🤷‍♂️[/quote] Ok, but that time has passed. “Despite half the world being under siege from a race other than white, WW2 was Euro-centric” topkek lad. Give or take 5 years. I’ve stopped even giving a shit about what you said. At this point it’s a logical fallacy for you to claim a W on this point unless you clarify and I’m allowed to respond. That’s because you’re actually a lamb willing to drink the kookaid from people who hate you for arbitrary reasons. You’re weak-willed if you accept white guilt. Cologne anybody? Too soon? And true colors? I’ve always been on the side of equality. Just so happens in this case I’m fighting for myself. Sentiments like that are exactly what I’m warning you libs about. Its only going to rally more people to WN’s cause. That’s not what I’m saying in the slightest. What I’m referring to is other races have had their own fair share of racist gangs in the US. Black panthers anyone? Also if white straight men are so bad, why were they the ones to change the laws? Why are white nations the ONLY nations to accept lgbt? Maybe some other nations are seeing how the lgbt community is treating the people who changed the laws and are having second thoughts about changing them themselves... just some food for thought. Go ahead and celebrate. Just don’t force me to watch the degeneracy. Disclaimer: you and I both know that the gay pride parades involve scantily clad people marching through public places and grooming of children. Don’t try to deny it. Opinions.

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  • [quote]Ok, but that time has passed.[/quote] With a demonstrable, disproportionate racial divide in wealth and wellbeing? Dont think so. [quote]“Despite half the world being under siege from a race other than white, WW2 was Euro-centric” topkek lad.[/quote] Japan "laid siege" to half the world? You mean some of the Asian pacific coastline lol. Thats not even close to "half the world". Topkek yourself. [quote]Give or take 5 years.[/quote] Sounds like they've broadened the curriculum somewhat then, you finished a lot more recently than I did. [quote]I’ve stopped even giving a shit about what you said. At this point it’s a logical fallacy for you to claim a W on this point unless you clarify and I’m allowed to respond.[/quote] Again, what part wasnt clear? You know you cant answer and you're playing dumb. [quote]That’s because you’re actually a lamb willing to drink the kookaid from people who hate you for arbitrary reasons. You’re weak-willed if you accept white guilt.[/quote] Except at no point do I feel guilty. Anyone who does is pretty insecure. [quote]Cologne anybody? Too soon? And true colors? I’ve always been on the side of equality. Just so happens in this case I’m fighting for myself.[/quote] Conflating terrorists with non-terrorists, yeah I can see you're totally not prejudiced or intellectually dishonest at all. All for equality and promoting a viciously harmful smear in the same paragraph, well done you. [quote]Sentiments like that are exactly what I’m warning you libs about. Its only going to rally more people to WN’s cause.[/quote] Sentiments like what? Like forcibly inserting yourself into someone elses land is likely to cause ill feeling and bloodshed? Thats not a sentiment, its a fact. [quote]That’s not what I’m saying in the slightest. What I’m referring to is other races have had their own fair share of racist gangs in the US. Black panthers anyone? Also if white straight men are so bad, why were they the ones to change the laws? Why are white nations the ONLY nations to accept lgbt? Maybe some other nations are seeing how the lgbt community is treating the people who changed the laws and are having second thoughts about changing them themselves... just some food for thought.[/quote] For every action, theres an opposite and equal reaction. Surprisingly applicable to social issues. Again, theres that stupid assumption that people think ALL straight white men are bad. I'm yet to see a credible source pushing that opinion lol. So far its been delicate little souls who got their fee fees hurt, insisting everyone hates them. As for the LGBTQ community treating people badly...with [i]parades?![/i] DEAR GOD. Your food tastes of dumb. [quote]Go ahead and celebrate. Just don’t force me to watch the degeneracy. Disclaimer: you and I both know that the gay pride parades involve scantily clad people marching through public places and grooming of children. Don’t try to deny it. Opinions.[/quote] THERE IT IS! DEGENERACY! GROOMING CHILDREN!! Thats the EXACT harmful narrative thats been used to oppress LGBTQ people coming from someone professing to be "all for equality". You're full of shit. I guess Mardis Gra and other such street festivals with scantily clad dancers are grooming children too? FOH lol, your opinions show who and what you are - prejudiced, and too cowardly to be honest with yourself about it.

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  • [quote][quote]Ok, but that time has passed.[/quote] With a demonstrable, disproportionate racial divide in wealth and wellbeing? Dont think so. [quote]“Despite half the world being under siege from a race other than white, WW2 was Euro-centric” topkek lad.[/quote] Japan "laid siege" to half the world? You mean some of the Asian pacific coastline lol. Thats not even close to "half the world". Topkek yourself. [quote]Give or take 5 years.[/quote] Sounds like they've broadened the curriculum somewhat then, you finished a lot more recently than I did. [quote]I’ve stopped even giving a shit about what you said. At this point it’s a logical fallacy for you to claim a W on this point unless you clarify and I’m allowed to respond.[/quote] Again, what part wasnt clear? You know you cant answer and you're playing dumb. [quote]That’s because you’re actually a lamb willing to drink the kookaid from people who hate you for arbitrary reasons. You’re weak-willed if you accept white guilt.[/quote] Except at no point do I feel guilty. Anyone who does is pretty insecure. [quote]Cologne anybody? Too soon? And true colors? I’ve always been on the side of equality. Just so happens in this case I’m fighting for myself.[/quote] Conflating terrorists with non-terrorists, yeah I can see you're totally not prejudiced or intellectually dishonest at all. All for equality and promoting a viciously harmful smear in the same paragraph, well done you. [quote]Sentiments like that are exactly what I’m warning you libs about. Its only going to rally more people to WN’s cause.[/quote] Sentiments like what? Like forcibly inserting yourself into someone elses land is likely to cause ill feeling and bloodshed? Thats not a sentiment, its a fact. [quote]That’s not what I’m saying in the slightest. What I’m referring to is other races have had their own fair share of racist gangs in the US. Black panthers anyone? Also if white straight men are so bad, why were they the ones to change the laws? Why are white nations the ONLY nations to accept lgbt? Maybe some other nations are seeing how the lgbt community is treating the people who changed the laws and are having second thoughts about changing them themselves... just some food for thought.[/quote] For every action, theres an opposite and equal reaction. Surprisingly applicable to social issues. Again, theres that stupid assumption that people think ALL straight white men are bad. I'm yet to see a credible source pushing that opinion lol. So far its been delicate little souls who got their fee fees hurt, insisting everyone hates them. As for the LGBTQ community treating people badly...with [i]parades?![/i] DEAR GOD. Your food tastes of dumb. [quote]Go ahead and celebrate. Just don’t force me to watch the degeneracy. Disclaimer: you and I both know that the gay pride parades involve scantily clad people marching through public places and grooming of children. Don’t try to deny it. Opinions.[/quote] THERE IT IS! DEGENERACY! GROOMING CHILDREN!! Thats the EXACT harmful narrative thats been used to oppress LGBTQ people coming from someone professing to be "all for equality". You're full of shit. I guess Mardis Gra and other such street festivals with scantily clad dancers are grooming children too? FOH lol, your opinions show who and what you are - prejudiced, and too cowardly to be honest with yourself about it.[/quote] I was under the impression that AA was so that racists would be encouraged to hire minorities. Like I said, I’ve stopped giving a shit. If you’d like to honor my original request and scroll back up to remember what you were talking about and elaborate for me, I’d be more than happy to respond. Until then, this is my last response on that matter. You DO understand that until the US stepped in, nothing could stop the Japanese army. When demeaning women is a staple part of one’s culture it’s not hard to see why it might be a bad idea to let so many people with that belief set into your westernized country. I’m not the one who did that. Nobody in America that’s alive today has done that in the context you’re providing. Yet somehow we’re still responsible for it. Well sorry chap, but I say -blam!- your white guilt. Call it what you will but a rose by any other name.... is still a rose. Wow. Again, refer to my previous statement you so gleefully mocked. I’m going to laugh my ass off when Trump wins this next election and the dems gets even angrier. The key to success is right in front of you, it’s like trying to feed a kid broccoli. I like how you laugh as if grooming children isn’t a big deal. And by like I mean am deeply disturbed by. Do you not remember [url=https://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/2015/06/Prideboy2.png]this[/url] kid? And the -blam!- is Mardis Gra? Do they have kids stripping down and/or preforming sexualized acts? If so, they should be banned. Also how -blam!-ing dare you assume my stance on this sort of thing.

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  • Editado por Bieltan: 4/4/2019 9:58:58 PM
    [quote]I was under the impression that AA was so that racists would be encouraged to hire minorities.[/quote] Cant move society towards equality if one demographic is being systematically denied employment 🤷‍♂️ [quote]Like I said, I’ve stopped giving a shit. If you’d like to honor my original request and scroll back up to remember what you were talking about and elaborate for me, I’d be more than happy to respond. Until then, this is my last response on that matter.[/quote] Mm-hmm. It was a simple enough question, and you know you cant give the answer you'd like to. [quote]You DO understand that until the US stepped in, nothing could stop the Japanese army.[/quote] Not like they had much in the way of serious competition that close by was it? They didnt lay half the world to siege, thats a gross exaggeration as evidenced by your own image. [quote]When demeaning women is a staple part of one’s culture it’s not hard to see why it might be a bad idea to let so many people with that belief set into your westernized country.[/quote] I dunno man, I live in an area with a lot of Muslims, I cant help but notice a lot of "iron housewives" lol. But its funny to see you trot out another tired talking point bandied about by prejudiced people. [quote]I’m not the one who did that. Nobody in America that’s alive today has done that in the context you’re providing. Yet somehow we’re still responsible for it. Well sorry chap, but I say -blam!- your white guilt. Call it what you will but a rose by any other name.... is still a rose.[/quote] Meanwhile, in the real world, entire generations live with the aftermath of the previous generation, for better or for worse. [quote]Wow. Again, refer to my previous statement you so gleefully mocked. I’m going to laugh my ass off when Trump wins this next election and the dems gets even angrier. The key to success is right in front of you, it’s like trying to feed a kid broccoli.[/quote] I mean, if you want to compete with the shitshow known as Brexit, thats your only choice really. [quote]I like how you laugh as if grooming children isn’t a big deal. And by like I mean am deeply disturbed by. Do you not remember [url=https://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/2015/06/Prideboy2.png]this[/url] kid? [/quote] Pal, I'm laughing at your wide open doublethink. "ITS NOT FAIR THAT ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE SMEARED FOR THE ACTIONS OF SOME (narrators voice: that wasnt what anyone credible said. Ever.) BUT HURR MURR ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORIST BIGOTS BECAUSE OF ISIS, AND ALL LGBTQ PEOPLE ARE DEGENERATE PEDOS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING SOME OF THEM DID ONCE AND GOT CALLED OUT ON BY EVERYONE" I'm laughing because I already had suspicions, and your mask slipped and confirmed it, mr "I'm all for equality". [quote]And the -blam!- is Mardis Gra? Do they have kids stripping down and/or preforming sexualized acts? If so, they should be banned. Also how -blam!-ing dare you assume my stance on this sort of thing.[/quote] I'm going by what you have said yourself. But then your so far gone with the WH brainwash that its basically pointless to talk to you further - one rule for you, another for anyone you're told not to like. 🙄

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  • Systematically by who? The government? Who also enforced the anti-discrimination laws? That’s enough IMO. If you think you’re going to get discriminated against all you gotta do is submit 2 job applications and put “white” for a race on one of them. If they accept the white one but not the black one, you got your proof. The area that was under siege by Japan was roughly the same amount that was under siege as Germany. Quit your bitching. Have you ever actually been to a country that I’m referring to? Because if not you don’t have a valid opinion about that subject. ... and innocent people should have to spill their guts for retribution because of something their ancestors ALLEGEDLY did. Remember, only 32% of white people in America owned slaves (according to the most liberal estimates). Like I said, broccoli to a spoiled kid. Here, lemme wipe that dribble off your lips. Now, before you make yourself look more of a fool, let me clarify my point. 1. I’m pro gay marriage 2. I never even mentioned ISIS. I spoke about a culture problem the Middle East has. You even admitted to it earlier in our conversation. 3. I don’t believe all gay people are degenerates, only those that partake in the parades. I do enjoy the deflection though. Instead of me calling you out for being a twisted human being that promotes child grooming, you tried to spin it back on me being a bigot to avoid scrutiny. Nice try though. The only people I don’t like are the ones who don’t like me based upon arbitrary reasons. It’s kinda funny though, once I expressed controversial opinions you instantly labeled me as having a “mask” despite you filling in the gaps with your own preconceptions of what someone with my belief set should be. It wouldn’t surprise me if you instantly assumed I was a racist from the beginning of this conversation, par for the course with a lib lmao.

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  • [quote]Systematically by who? The government? Who also enforced the anti-discrimination laws? That’s enough IMO. If you think you’re going to get discriminated against all you gotta do is submit 2 job applications and put “white” for a race on one of them. If they accept the white one but not the black one, you got your proof.[/quote] Who on earth do you think? Its not difficult. Well, not for most. [quote]The area that was under siege by Japan was roughly the same amount that was under siege as Germany. Quit your bitching.[/quote] Not "half the world". And most of that area wasnt as populous as Europe. [quote]Have you ever actually been to a country that I’m referring to? Because if not you don’t have a valid opinion about that subject.[/quote] So now we're shifting from "Libruls havent said anything about the middle east other than the past few decades of protests, petitioning and putting together aid groups" to "well you havent been so your opinions invalid" ok pal 😂 [quote]... and innocent people should have to spill their guts for retribution because of something their ancestors ALLEGEDLY did. Remember, only 32% of white people in America owned slaves (according to the most liberal estimates).[/quote] I still dont see this spilling of guts? I see "hey lets stop racism and make our society equal". Only one who feels any guilt seems to be you. 🤷‍♂️ [quote]Here, lemme wipe that dribble off your lips. Now, before you make yourself look more of a fool, let me clarify my point. 1. I’m pro gay marriage 2. I never even mentioned ISIS. I spoke about a culture problem the Middle East has. You even admitted to it earlier in our conversation. 3. I don’t believe all gay people are degenerates, only those that partake in the parades. I do enjoy the deflection though. Instead of me calling you out for being a twisted human being that promotes child grooming, you tried to spin it back on me being a bigot to avoid scrutiny. Nice try though.[/quote] 1. Well done you, you support a basic social right. 2. That wasnt your insinuation and you know it. This isnt the first time you've twisted and turned with your points, which leads me to... 3. Those parades are basically identical to street festivals and parades that have been taking place longer than you or I have been alive, yet suddenly its "Degeneracy" when gay people are involved? As if they werent before... The only other possibility here is that you are basing that opinion of a whole swathe of people off the moronic behaviour of comparitively few (which is a bad thing when applied to white people but not gays, if we follow your posts thus far). And, finally, quote me where I directly "promote" child grooming. No, really, please do. I want you to either back up your accusation, or retract that filthy lie. Its typical of a WN to start slinging baseless smears at people once they've shown themselves for what they are. [quote]It’s kinda funny though, once I expressed controversial opinions you instantly labeled me as having a “mask” despite you filling in the gaps with your own preconceptions of what someone with my belief set should be. It wouldn’t surprise me if you instantly assumed I was a racist from the beginning of this conversation, par for the course with a lib lmao.[/quote] "I'm all for equality, people shouldnt be smeared as a group because of what some others do" > Smears all Muslims > Smears all gays > Doesnt accept perceived smearing of all white people "Equality". I make no assumptions, I wait for people to show who they really are. Happens sooner or later, and it definitely happened here. Cant say I'm surprised to see baseless accusations/statements (this'll be the second time you wont be able to provide what I request), doublethink and intellectual dishonesty from a WN. Shocker. 🙄

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