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4/6/2016 10:44:31 PM
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They nerfed Flame Shield and Fireborn, Firebolts too would have been overkill.
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-blam!- you and -blam!- this game!
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Why so angry?
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Because this game is going down the shit hole because Bungie doesn't know how to -blam!-ing balance their god damn game! I thought they made Halo!??!
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The Bungie that made Halo is long gone m8
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I dont know, if they didnt know how to balance their game they would have ruined the Sunsinger completely like they did with Sunbreaker. They nerfed Flame Shield and Fireborn, Sunsingers need something going for them.
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I really don't feel like arguing anymore
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He's right. Nerfing another class to the ground will only cause more imbalance. I rather they rebuff or 'refix' all the other subclasses which are broken.
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They should have left fireborn alone and went after bucking funeral
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Nerf the burn and VF, not the bolt itself
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I know what you meant, but if Bungie just nerfed Viking Funeral Sunsingers would be pretty weak.
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No they wouldn't. Fusion makes still one hit and track, solar names are underrated are denial tools, fire bolt is chuck randomly let the tracking do the work with you giving zero effort, taking the enemy out of the fight for too long, and lastly you can see his position through walls to one hit him with any gun except an auto, which most would about 2 shot to the head except DoP you placed he dumbest argument ever.
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Except the fact that so many people are saying that Sunsinger is now the weakest class in PvP. Not only did they nerf Viking Funeral, they also nerfed Firebolt grenades themselves. Fusions are good grenades, but every class has sticky grenades. Very easy to avoid also, just stay away from that player. Solar Grenades were powerful with the old Viking Funeral, the new one only procs on impact with a solar grenade, so that perk is useless. Firebolts are still decent, but very weak and easy to avoid, especially with the nerfs. Im not even accounting for the glitch that is currently affecting all abilities in the game that deal Dot, it increases the armor of the target, this is big with Sunsinger as it deems two perks useless. You cant take everything that makes a class strong, and expect everything to be fine and dandy. If Bungie nerfed the Golden Gun, on top of the other nerfs Gunslinger received, it would have nothing going for it. My argument is not pointless. Nerfing something into the ground simply because you dont like it does not create balance, it further creates imbalance.
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It was definitely not nerfed to the ground, it was made balanced, you Sunsingers wouldn't know what that was though. Now Voidwalker and Stormcallers are now equally good as Sunsingers. But like I said, Sunsingers never knew what balance was. Everything is still extremely useable, and every ability Sunsingers have are top-tier, just not OP like it once was. Also remember that Sunsingers is a support class not offense, people used it as offense for too long and now wonder why it's not like it once was.
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I actually prefer to use Voidwalker, been using it for quite a few months. Sunsinger is far from viable in its current state, this is coming from experience. Mtashed released a video today talking about the Sunsinger and how he believes the class is very poor. Im not saying his word is what goes. But from a player of his calibre, also not maining a Sunsinger Warlock can agree the subclass is weak, what does that tell you?
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Because MTashed is simply surprised by sunsinger's new roll. He doesn't understand that they are a support class, not offense, that is Voidwalker and Stormcaller's job. Sunsingers is and was always meant to be a support class, when it strayed away from that they (right fully) nerfed it.
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Nighstalker is a support class, it has tools that allow the user to see their enemies through walls, have an evasive ability unique to that particular subclass, and a perk which allows them to use their super in an offensive manner. Defender Titans can outfit themselves to be aggressive tanks with No Back Up Plans and a shotgun, charging into battle to earn kills with their shotgun. Sunsinger has a perk which boosts damage ever so slightly, and can increase the grenade recharge of allies, and hover in place for a short time. It is so supportive compared to its peers.
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That is the most flawed argueme to ever. Warlocks also have the seeing through walls but guess what? NS has to see their target first then it works, warlocks both don't have to see the target (grenade) [b]and[/b] they deal damage (melee and grenade). Warlocks can also charge with a shotgun (every sunsinger I've seen does so) and No Back Up Plans is easily one of the most useless armor ever, you should have been using Armamentarium and TG are easily better. And before you say well you have a recharging shield as a defender. Guess what? We have to kill to get the shield, you only have to only throw your pocket sand at the enemy and you get a kill. Also remember you have almost twice the melee range of hunger and Titans. Suck it up, sunsinger is still top tier, and the nerfs were well deserved.
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Editado por Blooddrunk123: 6/21/2016 10:39:59 AMMate, you honestly believe that throwing a sub bar bolt grenade with the ability to see a player through a wall for three seconds is a powerful perk to the Sunsinger? That it is on the same level as Keen Scout for the Nightstalker? Nightstalkers can look at an enemy from across the map and track their every movement. Warlocks can track a target yes, but Nightstalker can do it without wasting a grenade or melee. I rarely ever see Sunsingers shotgun warrior, especially not now after the update. Flameshield is not the perk it was. Also, Titans always get so defensive over Force Barrier. Force Barrier is the [b]main[/b] melee ability of the Defender, which can be made to do other things. Flameshield is a perk on Scorch Melee. Force Barrier does not activate on hit because 1, it is stronger than Flame Shield. 2, can be recharged. 3, Force Barrier does not deplete on a single hit. If Sunsinger is as "top tier" as you say it is. I beg you to use it for a week and try to get at least one of your characters with a positive KD. Until then, Im done arguing with someone who is so bias.
