You could not be more wrong. These weapons do not need to be nerfed. And the reason is simple. There is NO WAY to balance exotic weapons is this game. These weapons all have special perks that make them better. Nerf thorn....and now everybody is running around with a pulse rifle that gives them back health ( red death) or the mytho. Because then they'll be on top. So the you nerf them, next it's the ram helmet....etc. it goes on and on and now you've turned weapons people had to grind to get into a bunch of useless junk like suros. Add to that Pve has already taken it up the arse hard because of these nerfs. HC and AR are so weak compared how they were and its really is messing up pve. Just put AR's back where they were and call it a day. Every single time they nerf something, another weapon takes its place and then people want that nerfed. I'll make you a bet right now. If they nerf thorn and tlw. Inside of a month people will be screaming for a nerf to pluse rilfles. I 100% guarantee it. Bungie should just make a mode with no exotics allowed so all the whiners can stfu.