I do think the chalice is a horrible mechanic though. You’re doing the same thing for the entire raid. Just in a different setting. Even RoN doesn’t do that. With other raids the encounters feel different enough that it’s fine, even if the main mechanic is the same. For some reason CE just does not feel different enough. Oh, and the reworked abyss is the worst raid encounter ever put in this game lol you cannot convince me otherwise. I’d give it a 6/10 for enjoyment but a 9/10 for difficulty.

[quote]I do think the chalice is a horrible mechanic though. You’re doing the same thing for the entire raid. Just in a different setting. Even RoN doesn’t do that. With other raids the encounters feel different enough that it’s fine, even if the main mechanic is the same. For some reason CE just does not feel different enough. Oh, and the reworked abyss is the worst raid encounter ever put in this game lol you cannot convince me otherwise. I’d give it a 6/10 for enjoyment but a 9/10 for difficulty.[/quote] Imo it’s only bad in lanterns and maybe bridge that’s the only place I don’t really like it. Bridge is confusing because people on plates need to get enlightened but they also can’t move from the plates so it’s kind of confusing if you’re doing chaos strats with having to shuffle people around to hold plates while swapping chalice My only complaint with RoN is the visuals letting you know when damage phases start are really hard to see on planets and nez.

Abyss is horrible because the cup doesn’t charge fast enough to keep you from hitting x10. I know there’s a triumph so it has to be possible but I’ve also only heard complaints about how obnoxious and hard it is. I hate that it feels like such a slog and the chalice charges so damn slow. Bridge isn’t bad if you just have people bringing the chalice to each other and once they hand it off the person that picked goes to someone else. But yeah I get what you mean.

Yeah I’ve heard about that as well. It’s only possible on strand and eager edge or something I heard. Bad design