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publicado originalmente em: Card resetters in trials should be banned
9/28/2022 12:28:05 PM
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so by resetting their cards they get to choose to exclusively play bottom tier people? when did that function become available? no one has to go flawless, it's a goal not a requirement. they don't get free wins by resetting, they beat the people they face. those who lose just lost to someone who outplayed them. that's all there is to it.
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  • While I’d say yes to some of what you said the point is having 2kd players in the top .1% playing .5 kd players in the bottom 70% farming them and carrying others of even less skill is disgusting

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  • so it has nothing to do with being .5 in the end game pvp mode? success is dependant on performance. lower skilled players need to be honest as to how far their skill can take them. carrying people is part of the seal. it's not disgusting,it's part of the game. it's also the only way the .5 people will see any real success, by carries.

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  • Editado por Sacred: 9/28/2022 10:12:24 PM
    Just because they aren’t the best players in the world they should be locked out of end game content that’s like saying “eh you’re not very good at the game so we are going to just lock 50% of the game until you get good” just because they are a .5 kd doesn’t mean they can’t get flawless against you know other .5kd players not the top .1% in the world lol card resetting is the same as gate keeping the content cause those lower skilled players can’t play 25 hours a day and beat them it’s the same as the “oh you don’t have this gun for the raid and you don’t know every single tiny detail about it well you can’t play” I play those players don’t get me wrong and I RUN over them but like it’s not fun? trials carry’s and carry’s in general ruin pvp and is why destiny pvp is so bad and has been. If those players in the top .1% are so good then why not play in the flawless pool? I mean they are so good? When you buy a game you should have a chance to get all of its content no matter your skill but having people gate keep it from players and bungie allowing it is gross and scum behavior I much respect the low skilled player actually trying to EARN it and trying to get better at the game instead of crying to someone to carry them because that just proves they have given up one themselves and will never improve at the game and blame the game for them not having the motivation to get better or atleast try

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  • Editado por Black Dynam1t3X: 9/28/2022 10:23:41 PM
    no one is locked out of anything, that's a blatant lie and a lame excuse. the reality is everyone can participate, it's up to the individual to succeed. if rewards that require doing something are too difficult for a person to obtain it's up to the individual to either improve, find people to carry them, or realize it's beyond their capability. that is all. you have a chance to get all of it's content, it's a game, skill is the driving force of getting it. the only gatekeeping is done by lack of skill, and unwillingness to improve. that's scum behavior.

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  • So you’re saying the top .1%ers sitting in the non flawless pool (a pool that was literally built to help those less skilled player have a chance to grow their skill and earn their rewards) isn’t gate keeping? How are those players supposed to improve? If I’m new to the game and I wanna play trials by your statements it’s my fault because I just started and aren’t good enough to go against the top players in the world in a game mode pool that’s built for not great players and if I want do it I should go cry to someone to carry me instead of earning it or just flat out give up. The main point is you say those players need to improve which I agree however there is NO room for them to improve if that’s the kinda players they play against every other game and just get stomped down the trick to improving in pvp is by playing pvp at a fair level maybe some slightly worse then you maybe some slightly better than you not a flat out stomping by the top players.

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  • yes, that's exactly what I said in the initial comment you replied to. no one is required to go flawless, it's only a goal. a person has all week to practice, can ask questions, watch videos, you know actually try to improve instead of blaming players better than themselves. if you are new why would you try and jump in the deep end? you wouldn't be ready for pve end game either. success is your responsibility alone. there is all of the room in the world for people to improve. people don't use any of it as the comp playlist is mostly a ghost town. the same playlist that already had SBMM readily available when all the cries were change CBMM in control. people don't want to improve. blaming others is easier, and acting entitled that the game should reward you for failure is insane.

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  • No one is required but every should have the chance to go it doesn’t matter how many video, questions, whatever you do if you’re going against the best players in the game you’re not going to win and bungie literally saw that and created a pool to stop that so everyone can try to have a fair chance at it and resetters abuse it which needs to be changed. It doesn’t matter how new you are you can do pve end content too? Pve and pvp are not the same at all. Shooting ads and shooting top players in the world are not the same lol I don’t think you get what I’m getting at most card resetters boost their stats and carry others THOSE people have failed to improve they have to play weak players to do anything and the carrys just flat out gave up on themselves? Not the players actually trying to play and earn it I see tons of people that play sbmm lobbies and like it cause they can actually play and try to do stuff without getting sweat on every game. If anything the carry’s and resetters are the ones entitled the carry’s thing they have to go flawless so they go get someone to carry and the resetters think they are entitled to their good stats so people perceive them at a god tier player when in reality they boost.

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  • everyone has a chance, everyone's chance is dependant upon their skill to succeed. if you're jumping into the deep end you should expect to need to perform on a high level in order to succeed. new players won't jump into GM's or master raids or any heavy endgame pve like they won't be able to succeed in trials. you never start at the top. I don't think you know what you're getting at. if you don't have the skill to win, that's the only issue. not a card reset, not any other crap you pull out your -blam!-. skill is what makes games worth playing. everyone obviously won't be on the same level, but failing to do what's required is a user issue alone.

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  • Editado por Sacred: 9/28/2022 11:18:13 PM
    Games are about skill but it’s similar skill lol? If I’m relatively new to any game call of duty rocket league whatever I don’t wanna be going against pros in my comp matches neither should these players that have been probably playing for a decent amount of time going against the top players in the world. You talked about people carrying in trials though? So those players that are literal bottom of the barrel deserve it cause they get carried rather than the player that are trying to earn it themselves yes or no? And skill is definitely not the only things that make game worth playing have you ever heard of *fun*

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  • it doesn't matter what game it is, a new player won't see success in end game high level activities. it's such a moot point that by now it's pathetic you keep bringing it up if a person deserves the loot is not even a real discussion. that's merely jealousy that another person has something you don't. however they get it has nothing to do with you. yes, and having fun in a game happens when you are skilled enough to play well.

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  • You’re delusional bro you think bad players crying to resetters for wins doesn’t make both those players pathetic while other people that are trying to earn it can go f themselves because they wanna get it by trying. You keep saying players that deserve it get condone people getting carried when it’s obvious the players getting carried done deserve it lol

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  • tell yourself whatever makes you feel good. if you lack skill to earn it, it's a personal problem period. if you worry over what someone else has, you're jealous, plain and simple. the game literally has achievements to earn by carrying people, it's part of the game. you seem more upset that no one will carry you. check yourself when you speak on delusional.

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  • You have 0 flawlesses .48 in trials and a .89 kd Overall look me up then speak to me about pvp lol I’m sure you must love having 870 matches played with 0 done you seriously cant tell me you like to play top players in the world while trying to go flawless

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  • There it is, the pathetic last ditch post my stats post. My words stand true. Posting my stats only serves to prove my words true. I go into trials knowing great players are there. I go in knowing what I'm capable of without disillusioned ideas.I also have no complaints about losing either. If I fail to succeed the people who beat me are not at fault.

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  • I mean yeah how you gunna tell me that I’m crying for a carry when you can’t even go? You’re talking about all these people they don’t deserve this and that and carry’s and blah blah blah but can’t even reach it yourself lol most people don’t have a punishment kink like yourself that wanna get beat up by players like me and better especially ones resetting to gate keep it for players literally like you to never get their. you can get their but playing resetters and carry’s literally gate keeps you out of the activity lmfao and you like that?

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  • You clearly can't read or reason. So I'll leave you to your idiocy.

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  • Then there are the people who boost at the 1 win reset farms. Those people are in the middle bracket, good enough to stomp the 0.5-0.8 kd players to farm them. But not good enough to play againt the people their own skill level, so the resort to getting serotonin by making others experiance terrible. i belive there shouldnt be a punishment, however games should be played from the partys highest elo. therefore the lesser players can find teams slimilar to themselves and play against teams similar to themselves. And those with high elos and like the challenge will find teams with elos like themselves. Therefore the ones that want to farm and boost, will be sizzled out becuase nobody wants to play with them. And you will have a comfy playerbase with people that want to play the game for the experience and loot, rather than those that stom players. In the end Sacred has the upper oppinion, BlackDynam, your oppinion is just one sided, and as sacred pointed out your stats it proved his point so much more, you cant get nowhere becuase your either getting stomped, so take some advice and read your own messages and youll see that you need to git gud, or understand that the game mode is toxic and unbalanced.

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  • Another person who can't read and got their daiper in a bunch. There's only one reason anyone loses, they failed to beat their opponents. Not resetting or any other excuse. Period.

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  • You literally cant read, go back to school you troglodyte. If you took 2 mins to actually read, then you would have seen that i partially agreed with you, but both of you have points. I have my flawlesses, compared to you i am the highly skilled player becuase i have reached that endgame peak in PVP. Your just too blind to realise the truth.

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  • This isn't a compared to me scenario idiot. I too have been flawless. So thete went that pathetic attempt at a dig. This is about card resetters, illiterate fool.

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  • Your just collectivly reading one reply as the whole scenario, Thats something someone would do when they dont have much to say but still banging on to prove a point that has no support or reasoning. Its a wrap G. get good at the game, and understand how the game works. Intentionally keeping someone from suceeding (card reset) is gatekeeping, no matter what -blam!- comment you have it has no ground, its a straight fact, simple. You need some life skills as well as game skills.

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  • All that bs in multiple replies didn't say jack pertinent. Card resetters don't get free wins, they beat who thry face. Those who lose do do because they failed to win. That is the bottom line.

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  • XD Wow massive DUB. I know if you read the post youd see thats what i was talking about you invlid. Learn how to spell too -blam!-.

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  • As you misspelled invalid lmao. Those with turds for brains and excuses can only try grammar and talk about stats. The only gatekeepers are lack of skill a.d unwillingness to improve. Those who lose failed to win.

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  • Im just reading this and from an outside pov you both have points. First, games are dependant on physical skill and knowledge of said game, that is a solid fact to be "good" at a game. However Sacred is right in saying yes, people playand have purchased this game to play all of the content, all of the content is there for them to get BUT when it comeds down to PVP and PVE its completely different, in PVE its not hard to understand how the game works, i could get my girlfriend in to play the game and she would be doing master kingfall within the month. but PVP its a bit different, you need to improve, and the only way to improve is to fail, but fail to those who are just as bad at you are so you can work your way up. Trials is an endgame PVP activity thats open to anyone in the game 3.0Kd or 0.1Kd players, its not something thats locked for only 3.0Kd players, its for everyone to enjoy, The point of it is that you play against someone similar skill level to your own to proveil against them to earn your loot, becuase you was the best out of your catagory of skilled players. This is the same for 3.0Kd players, they should be playing against 3.0 or similar to prevail againts them. Its not that a 0.5KD player needs to be able to beat a 3kd player who has 14000 hours in the game with over 300+ flawlesses, that is asking was too much of somepeople. and those that may want to get that far obviously need to play more and progress, however i do agree with the fact that carries can sometime help becasue you can learn, but i dont agree with card resets, becuase then the 3.0kd players dont want to face off against people their own sill level, bun instead stomp those who are trying to learn and improve, there is no way they can improve in those condidions, thats why the flawless pool was created, but that was flawed by people doing what they do now, untimatly its not fair. on paper im a similar skill level to you Black Dynam, i have like what 0.6 trials KD but 1.7 overall something like that and 7 flawlesses. But im 100% sure i could stomp you, becuase im trying to improve and get better in trials, but i cant becuase im getting stuck at 2/3 wins because of the top 1%. It does annoy me, i carry on trying to improve but that only makes my KD worse, thats why i have a 1.7 in normal PVP, becuase its just straight SBMM. Trials needs to be fixed. its not in a good state, the only ones happy are again the people who stomp others. Iv stomped before to get to flawless, its not fun, its boring. i like the high intensity games with people your skill level where it may come down to 1 round or something like that. But the "high skill" players with 2.0kd dont want to have those games because they probably cant be botherd or its too hard

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