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Editado por DemonDarren:
9/27/2021 9:41:52 AM
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Shatterdive NERF
Bungie plz do something about this people say dun is broken If dun is broken I don't know what the hell this is. It wipes the whole team. I think even hunter main know that this thing is broken. What do you guys think? Yes or No
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64 RespostasWarlock - A well placed Penumbral Blast melee can freeze a whole team, followed up by a melee, will shatter and kill the enemy team. - Arc web's passive trait grants chaining to arc grenades that can easily kill an enemy team. - Empowering rifts and a bow will one shot you, pair it with le monarque and perfect draw to the head- you get my drift. - Stag give yourself and the team an arc soul, not to mention you can run it with No Time to Explain for another floating buddy and Landfall one shots any other super. Titan - A Shiver Strike can literally do the same thing a hunter's shatter dive can with it's glacial quake. - Dunemarchers Arc middle tree and bottom tree striker can wipe out a whole 6 player team if everyone is somewhat nearby. - Grenades that one shot with Ashen Wake - Shoulder charges that can one shot, suppress a super, grenades that can completely suppress enemy supers. Maybe it's that people who play other classes don't really use their imagination? But literally every class has a one shot capability that can wipe a whole team and it's great.
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1 ResponderLol and there you have it, the 37% of hunters who voted against.
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Editado por 12HT DIESEL GOAT: 9/29/2021 4:57:24 AMlast season i played stasis hunter in pvp all season, i didnt feel bad about shatterdive with the state the super was in as it was pretty crap, this season im playing a different subclass and have noticed across both pvp lobbies on console and pc there is an overwhelming majority of revenant hunters far in excess of what i saw last season. i thought that on the back of the super being buffed that wed see the aspects and fragments fueling shatterdive addressed as fair trade but still, with the right combo of aspects and mods youve got your shatter up every 15-20 odd seconds aswell as having a super that is quite frankly excellent now and the dive escape from air wich i cant begin to stress how many times has saved me from certain death. I see almost no downsides to the revenant subclass anymore, its now basically an overused class with a great super and a 30 second pocket nova bomb. this is coming from a pvp enthusiast who exclusively plays hunter in crucible. i certainly will not be wasteing my time crutching that sht this season, i wanna get better at pvp not rely on abilities to hold me up.
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6 RespostasAll the people saying that it’s easy to avoid are all hunters. Guess what? You are the only class in the game that can juke in a direction that you are not facing. No one has time to bust a 180 and start running then dash in the time it takes a grenade to land in your path. Put your crutches down.
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Editado por hate n payne: 9/29/2021 10:01:50 PMThe META usage you see is a clear indicator of how the game is being played. Players will always crutch their way to easy mode stuff and claim it as skill. How many 120s do you see now? I just used Iggy Hammer and still feels good to use. I might even take out my True Prophecy for a spin. Where are the Gnawing Hungers? I dont own ine anymore but the Arc Logic still feels good to use. It has been the Bungie way since D1 became a thing. I feel Bungie knows what is considered broken but they play favoritism and use the imbalanced and flawed system as means of content. There are so many strong diverse options in this game but since streamers help dictate what players will utilized due to the excessive videos of how to play the game rather than you should play how you want, the concept of how players play Destiny will never change and it will continue to plague this game until they solely admit it is flawed.
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1 ResponderGet shatterdove bozo✌️
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8 RespostasIt'll probably get tuned, but it's now pretty easy to predict it's coming... If you hear a double jump, GET BACK.
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18 RespostasI think you need to remove all 1 hit melee kills from both Titan and Warlock if you don't like it.
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2 RespostasNeed these nuts on ya chin boss
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5 RespostasHow are you bots dying to shatter dive? I die to arc souls more than that. Yes i spam it. Yes i know how to counter it. Its ez.
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1 ResponderCorrection. It CAN wipe a dumb team. If they are AFK....even even then its a coinflip. But so can titan and warlock...
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No, I can't get kills without it , don't nerf please
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The fact that you can jump amd do 5 damage in a small radius around youvis broken
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1 ResponderI haven’t really been killed by shatterdive that much. If anything, Squall lasts way to long tho lol
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It was nerfed how ever u see it there's always gonna be people wanting nerfs it's been like that since d1 is y d2 yr1 was how it was most likely y sunsetting happened
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6 RespostasNerf the vex first... it's way more broken than shatterdive...
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Editado por LikwiD_SmOkE22: 9/29/2021 3:57:34 AMYou know its the grenade and all the aspects right? Go shatterdive something without throwing the nade... you'll do more damage with a wet paperbag. Should probably change the title to aspects and grenades.
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7 Respostas[quote]Bungie plz do something about this people say dun is broken If dun is broken I don't know what the hell this is. It wipes the whole team. I think even hunter main know that this thing is broken. What do you guys think? Yes or No[/quote] So because you know its strong.. and you know you're playing against someone with it on.. seems more like it's the person getting shatterdive that is the problem.. maybe dont cower in riffs together?
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2 RespostasShatterdive itself is not the issue. The damage grenades deal are. Shatterdive is literally designed to freeze a target and then “shatter them” it’s in the name. Paired with hunter mobility, it’s built that way. That being said, you can’t add a delay on shatterdive after throwing a grenade, it would leave hunters with no way to freeze opponents. Unless a hunter were to dodge twice and hit with a throwing star, 8/10 times you’d be dead before pulling off that combo. Everyone would breakout before a hunter could get close, considering it’s the only method hunters have to shatter crystals. Damage just needs to be tuned down to not be an instant kill when being shattered in a grenade. That being said, as a hunter who does use shatterdive from time to time, most of the people I kill aimlessly rush me or try to ape me with a shotgun which leaves them vulnerable to an instant freeze combo. Typically can’t rush someone with a glacier grenade and shatterdive if the opponent has two thumbs and can aim. If I rush people I get shotgunned, sidearmed, linear fusion, or vex mythoclast’d. Or I get shatterdived in turn. People overall need to play more strategically and stop complaining about abilities because they get killed by it, especially when they don’t think about the repercussions of a nerf. Everyone wanted nova warp nerfed and look now, the poor super got neutered and never restored to decent usability. Dawnblade and Stormcaller are way better options, that is till maybe Void 2.0. All in all, I find it funny everyone hates hunters and wants their abilities nerfed yet again. Meanwhile other classes have similar abilities or different ones all functioning differently. And on a final side note, ALL stasis classes have Glacier grenade and ALL stasis classes have a shatter feature.
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10 RespostasThat crap can kill you in your super.
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3 RespostasI like what Grenader Jake calls it. He replaces the a with an I 😂.
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Agreed 👍
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I’m on the fence. I lean towards no but it can definitely be abused. Mostly why I think no is because the game finally feels moderately balanced. Of all D2 history and even majority of D1… weapons and subclasses can all compete. Sure some subclasses need boosts but none truly need knocking down.
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20 RespostasIt isn’t shatterdive it’s whisper of fissures with the ice wall grenade 😐 so they’d need to nerf the nade itself. And as for shatterdive just force a 3 second penalty after throwing a grenade so they can’t use it immediately. Same for titans sliding
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Shatterdive, Titan Shoulder Charge,… same difference. It’s the Shatter Damage from the Grenade that’s doing what you don’t like. Nerf the crap out of Shatter Damage, that’s what you are really asking for, and that can be done across all three classes. Fine by me.
