If your account has been flawless that weekend, you should only match against other flawless. That way people who want to give its whirl, aren’t being match on match own against some dude who had 48,000 trials kills and another who had 52x flawless this season already

It’s mostly because of a hellishly low player population. The matchmaking is a lot better on weeks where more players are playing, such as the hammer week and messenger week, since there’s a larger pool of low to medium skill players getting to 3-5 wins instead of everything past 2 wins being dominated by tournament sweat level teams

Absolutely bodied LOL Now take it like a man, and move on.

Ok I’m going to go over what I think are the points covered throughout the thread 1. Card based matchmaking is fine Card based matchmaking will never be fine until they resolve a few factors. First, it has to go off of the highest card and not the fire team leader, if anyone thinks I’m lying look at the opponents when it says x has been granted access to the lighthouse when you are on a zero win game 2. Trials of Osiris is for the best of the best If this was the case Bungie would never try to get more people in the playlist they would just leave it to the best. If it was for the best of the best then the endgame bounty and seasonal challenge would not be a thing 3. Going against flawless players over and over again is a you problem not a me problem No, it’s a Bungie problem and should not be happening, simple 4. If trials is meant for the elite then it should have good/special weapons (e.g. small perk pools and good weapons) but not the BEST weapons. This is a fact, trials should have great weapons but not the best when they are in accessible to most of the player base, before anyone says the adept weapons are not really much better, they are still better. This creates a greater power gap between players which should not be there, the best weapons should be in activities that everyone can access, if you disagree I’m guessing you’re a person who has gone flawless multiple times and wants to feel special 5. Everybody just wants handouts No, people don’t. But their should be a chance and the ‘get good’ philosophy is bull unless you want to say, ‘everyone else get worse’. CBMM should be how matchmaking works, you will still get hard games of course but not every game as it is going off of your connection. Alternatively have a separate playlist which is in accessible to players who have been flawless, but, if you are a person who has not been flawless you have access to it but cannot go flawless in this playlist and once you get to 7 wins you are forced into the other playlist as you have shown you are capable, also have it so rewards cannot be claimed from this playlist after your first run to avoid getting to 6 and resetting. I am tentative with this idea but is a hell of a lot better than it is currently set up Solutions These are possibilities not definite solutions and should not necessarily all be implemented 1. CBMM not card based 2. Put the best weapons in PvE so those who get lots of flawless’ can have their exclusivity whilst allowing the best to be accessible by everyone 3. A flawless safety net. If a player has not been flawless but is put against a team with more than 5 cumulative flawless cards they will not get a loss on their card unless they leave the game 4. Do not allow burner accounts into trials or accounts with only x amount of playtime. This would prevent violating number 3 5. More accessible rewards. E.g. tokens awarded for finishing a card and the more wins you have on said card the more tokens you get. More tokens overall. Make loot drop at the end of the game instead of just the bounty, 3,5,7, flawless wins

No one is giving you a handout here. Trials is for the hardcore who wanna show off their time invested as most games, Hit the rumble and get better. I will say Bungie Do a bad job of keeping causal players in the playlist with no incentive

It's a tournament where anyone can enter and everyone is fighting for the same stakes/rewards and it works exactly like that. I have started playing about 1 to 2 cards a week with no mic. Generally make it to anywhere between 3 and 5 wins before losing but I never complain. The times that I have lost, the other team was better. They deserved it and I didn't. Simple.

So they shoehorned trials into a meaningless reward yet you forced yourself to play it for said reward? Sounds like a “you” problem.

I think that match making in general is garbage right now, should go back to skill based match making, I’ve been on both ends either you mercy or get mercyed, its broke

Bump

Whoa, cowboy is #9 in overall trials elo. Nasty!

Well trials is a complete s*** show. Love the idea but it’s so beyond broken

So, at this point I don't think they'll ever be able to make everyone happy with trails. No matter what they do its going to alienate a segment of players, they need to just accept it or scrap it as a whole and create a new endgame pvp mode.. until then it'll be more of this from either bad players, or good players depending on what they do.