Yeah. Thanks for this. I was starting to feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. Where 3v4s are good and people who don't know me and never met me tell me I remind them of their nephews. And he doesn't even play Comp. This is completely bonkers. Maybe the Crucible team should hire him so he can go in there barking commandments and telling people that we need more 3v4s because... sharing is caring?

[b]"In a lunatic asylum without walls, sanity tends to sound like craziness." [/b] ----Eckhardt Tolle. ...and I'm talking to two of the senior inmates. You to are so utterly and completely wrapped up in your own little selfish Universes, that it never occurred to you that as "crazy" and "bonkers" as I may sound to you.... ....is how shockingly immature and narcissitic the two of you sound to me. As I said. You are struggling with a concept that my two year old nephew can grasp. So how do you think that makes you look to me? Of course....you didn't think about that. [b]"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live. Its asking **others** to live as one wishes to live." [/b] ---Oscar Wilde. I've already explained in pain-staking detail why starting out in a 3v4 match is not the end of the world to everyone. But you literally can't see beyond your own nose...and literally insist that YOUR needs are the whole WORLD's needs. Yet you call **me** crazy.

[quote]....is how shockingly immature and narcissitic the two of you sound to me.[/quote] Do you walk around your house in a judges cloak carrying a gavel? I would hate to be one of your kids. I'm sorry who are you again that I need to be asking for your approval of my opinions? Oh wait you're that PvE guy who has posted on here dozens if not hundreds of times telling Bunige what they should do to fix their game and yet no one else should post telling Bungie what they think about the game works. You also post completely absurd ideas about how PvP should work without having any idea of what you are talking about. Stay in your lane. You don't even play Comp. The second someone offers an opinion that's different than yours they are childish and narcissitic? It would be funny if it wasn't so blatantly sad and hypocritical. Nevermind it is funny. Its a hoot. It is not insane to suggest that 3v4s happen way too often. They happen way too often and there is no reason to play them because they are over before they begin. You've said why they happen but you've never said why there is any reason anyone should want to sit there and get pummled by a team with more people on it. I'm pretty sure Oscar Wilde wouldn't wish 3v4s on anyone and neither do I. Its just a sloppy way to run a competitive mode. The entire planet of Earth should play 4v4 matches in Comp when they play Comp. That's simply not a narcissitic thing to say. It doesn't have to be like this and to suggest it does is insane and lazy minded.

More rationalization and ad hominems. Might as well hang a sign around your neck stating, “I’m losing on the merits.” The irony is that I only intended to make [i]one[/i] post. Because I made the mistake of assuming that all I would need to do is call attention to the Big Picture and the many competing needs Bungie has to try to balance with matchmaking and everyone would calm down. Holy Shit, have the two of you proved me wrong on that one. Like I said. Now I’m just curious to see just how wrong I was in that assumption. I’m getting quite the education. Smh.

I'm pretty sure more people agree that there should be less 3v4s in Comp. But if I'm losing the argument which aparrently is based on your parameters then I guess I'm losing. Welcome to kellygreen world. Where caring is sharing and 3v4s are fuuuuuun! Like I said its just too much and of all the things that they absolutely have to deal with 3v4s are the least necessary. I defend Bungie a lot but there just is no defense of this happening as much as it does. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go stuff my face. Narcissistically...

A 3v4 isn't the end of the world for everyone, I've won them before, even almost a 2v4. Doesn't make them okay to happen. Other games take quitters seriously and either just end the game or severely punish them. Destiny just gives you a big ol 'oops please don't do that again. You're too wrapped up in you're own crap to see beyond your garbage of an argument.

Where did I say it was "okay"? Where DIDN"T I say that this was an imperfect solution to a situation where there ARE no perfect solutions. [i]Keep up. [/i]

We let him in there and he'll turn QP into his own personal SBMM sonna at the expense at everyone who is decently good. Anytime I've been following his crap for a while and I'm beyond sick to his stubborn closeminded ego. He doesn't get to attack people with rational issues by using irrational thought. He acts entitled to a completely fine, completely personal PvP experience simply because he bought the game and uses his followers and allies to build a false narrative that the current matchmaking is going to kill the game and then attacks any who disagree rationally. I've even put him and his closest associates into the cult they so act like and really hope it catches on amongst the sensible humans in the forums because these jerkwads need to go.