Um. I would like to inform you that Keys were RNG and from BOSSES that you killed from Strikes. Strikes had SPECIFIC ITEMS and it was also RNG for you to get the right strike for what you NEEDED in order to increase your Light Level. Must I remind you that Prime Engrams exist? Sure they are have RNG, but they can come from ANYTHING THAT YOU PLAY IN THE GAME. Not just strikes.

It's pretty damn hard when there's a warzone in the forums of people with mixed opinions. For example, I just got called a crackhead. There are so many type of audiences in this community when this game doesn't really call for it. What Bungie has essentially done is give the casual part of the community as louder voice with the launch of D2. Casual based game. People complain that it's too boring and there's nothing to do. Blah blah. Now the more hardcore players have the loudest voice. They change the game. Now the casuals have the loudest voice again. The community is unbalanced. It wouldn't be if they never catered to casuals. Bungie doesn't know that they want their game to be right now. And it's their fault with the launch of D2. They should have kept the game how it was in D1 Y3 and built upon that. As I said IT'S NOW EASIER to get to max light than ever before than in D1. No keys for chests for strikes or to do the raid, etc. You just play the game and you get max light. You get into a clan but don't play much, you get the rewards regardless of you playing. And they're powerful engrams too. Imo, this game supports casual players. So what happened? As I said no one is actually saying what's wrong. Everyone is taking the personal approach rather than saying why. Also, I'm a casual player who used to be a hardcore player. Don't play this game that much anymore because I want to focus on single player games more. I think people are just burnt out. It's the same stuff all over again. What everyone truly wants is something brand NEW. We're never going to get another gjallarhorn type weapon. We're not going to get another Vault of Glass. The moments we had and D1 are never going to happen no matter how much they improve this game. People kept playing for more than just the LOOT. They played for the gameplay. Shooting aliens in the face or proving yourself in the crucible (which is harder with the changes in TTK). So what is it? You still haven't answered me. What is the problem. Is the magic simply gone? Are people tired of the same thing and just want a BIG BREAKTHROUGH? Because it sure as hell isn't the amount of content. There's plenty to do for the hardcore players. And casuals can get to max light without touching endgame content.

What scale? It’s tiny and drip fed so people don’t get Osiris levels mad again. I didn’t quit but 90% of the player base aren’t playing it.

[quote]You don’t get it. I want the game to be good, and popular, and successful. I don’t want changes to make the game I like. I want changes that makes the game better for everyone.[/quote] This is a looter shooter. Give suggestions on how middle ground can be achieved. You still haven't answered my question. Everyone wants the game to BE GOOD. So what is it that would make it GOOD? [quote]The casual people you’re so condescending to are the ones who make the game possible.[/quote] Well sorry to bring this up NOW but I am a Casual player. I'm not hardcore at the moment. I'm not being condescending. This game genre doesn't call for casuals (even this game has casual elements to it as I listed before). Its like saying that Dark Souls or Cuphead should be easier to cater to people who aren't good at the game. That's not the POINT and Bungie has been pushing this idea on people for the longest time. They updated the clan system for THIS GAME. They improved it. WHY? OH IDK. Maybe to make it clear on how to play the game in the most efficient way possible. Now there are Casual Solo Players complaining about the game when the franchise was never made to bring in that type of player. [quote]The game is failing hard right now. The customers aren’t happy. Only 10% of the player base still plays regularly.[/quote] Again. Why? You keep dodging this question. What changes need to be made? You say they need a middle ground. What would that possibly be besides letting people buy exotics from Xur? I'm not saying this game is perfect. [quote]I want changes that bring back a huge chunk of the player base, and bending over backwards to screw everyone over who isn’t a streamer or a person who LIKES no life grinding games for microscopic progression and rewards isn’t going to do that. It just causes more people to quit all the time.[/quote] This game isn't screwing people over. Stop with your tin foil hat conspiracy. It's not Bungies fault that casual progression is not as fast as people who play the game more. Just like it's not Bungies fault for people blowing through content. Bungie is a company. Not your parents. YOU PLAY MORE YOU GET MORE. It's a looter shooter. LOOTER. That's the point of the game. You keep repeating what you're saying without expanding on why or how on any section of what you're saying. I was hardcore. Now I'm not. Do I expect to be in the same position if I wasn't a casual? No. I play less now. I progress slower. ALL LOOTER GAMES CATER TO PEOPLE who PLAY MORE. I don't know how that's so hard to grasp. [quote]Friday when the raid launched has 100k less players than the friday a week before it.[/quote] You do realize that big games have been releasing in the time that Destiny 2 has been out right? You also need to put in the fact that there are a ton of games and things besides playing destiny. There are people who are getting their first job at 16. There are people who have met loved ones. There are people who are working two jobs and simply don't have time to pay games at all. People playing RDR2, Fallout 76, Smash Ultimate. This franchise is Rated T. 13 year olds are now 17 probably working and going to school. I, for one, am working two jobs. I'm 20. My family is in a financial crisis. I stay home to work and give them money and help put food on the table. Times change. There are many more variables as to why people are leaving besides people complaining from the game not being tuned to their vision. Sure I doubt that 90% is all that but these are also those who never gave D2 another chance when they said that were leaving. "I'm leaving for good" posts. Everyone doubting those people. They're probably not here. They probably aren't even looking at Destiny 2 news. They moved on to different games. This genre was bad from the start. Too many variables to look at in order to TRY and please everyone. Casual elements are there. Casuals aren't supposed to be looking for an abundance of content. Casuals play the game for gameplay and fun and a time go relax and shoot aliens in the face. Casuals are TRYING to play the game with the full intention of being hardcore. They want the progression and rewards hardcore players have and think that Bungie should cater to them because they can't quit their jobs to play Destiny. Your life choices are yours. Bungie isn't your parent that leaches off of you because they have no place to go when your 35 and have a family of your own. You specifically don't get that sense of importance because this is a community after all. And before it happens. I want to call it. You're going to ignore everything I said. Reply with "You don't get it" " Its useless talking to you". When you're the one repeating everything and me countering what you say every time and block me. Because this is the internet and people need to prove that they "win" rather than being civilized and having a discussion. OR we will have to agree to disagree because its 4am and none of this matters anyway. No one gains anything from this conversation except "winning on the internet" Yadda yadda yadda. We're all going to die. The end.