No. You're trying to treat two things that are---in fact----very different as if they are the same. They aren't. One is a principled arugment. The other is not. I don't hold either religions CRAZIES against the mainstream of their religion. Muslim bashers want to hold Islam's crazies against them....while pretending that Christianity's crazies don't exist.... ....or are some outlier that doesn't reflect on the whole, while arguing that Islam's does.

Yes. You can spin it however you'd like, though.

It’s not spin. [i]I don’t believe in group accountability for individual transgressions.[/i] I don’t give a shit whose group it is. I’ll argue for THEIR individuality as aggressively as I’ll defend my own. That is not the same as the guy who hypocritically argues that THEIR group has to answer for individual transgressions but HIS doesn’t. As my mother used to say, “I care about WHAT is right, not WHO is right.” So I have no problems calling out my “tribe” when they’re wrong. Whereas you’re trying to compare me to someone who only cares about the WHO, and doesn’t give two shits about the WHAT.

If you say so

I do. You’re failure to recognize the difference is your problem. Not mine.

I understand the difference. You're just full of shit. Your failure to recognize that is your problem. Not mine.

No you don’t recognize the difference. Because this is “principled morality” 101. I’m not condemning an entire religion based the actions of a few people. BECAUSE I DONT DO THAT TO ANYONE. Whereas the OP is doing that while expecting you to dismiss Christianity’s history of violence. That is hypocrisy.

Oh stop. You condemn entire groups of people based on the actions of a few all the time. You're one of the least objective users on this forum. You're full of it and you know it. Have a nice day.

No. I don't. YOU don't understand the difference between INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOR....and GROUP DYNAMICS. Group dynamics describe the social psychology of how people in a group interact with one another....and how different groups interact with each OTHER. Individuals are responsible for individual behavior. Groups are responsible for group dynamics in which they participate in. IOW, If you are a Christian, neither YOU nor Christians as a whole are responsible for people who think that its okay to perpetrate violence against gay people or to discriminate against gays. No Christian doctrine teaches this...so you are dealing with individual transgression. Which is why I tell atheists who want to try to argue that this kind of behavior is the "fault of religion"....I tell them that they are WRONG. Just like I told the OP in this thread that he was wrong for wanting to condemn all of Islam for the violence of small number of radical Islamic terrorists. OTOH, if you are Christian than you are responsible and accountable for the GROUP DYNAMIC around the belief that homosexuality is a **sin**, and that homosexual relationships are not to be seen as equal to those of heterosexuals in the eyes of God. Because that is a doctrinal issue of the faith to which you profess to belong. Even if you don't hold to it individually. Just like---as an American---I am accountable for the fact that Donald Trump is President of the United States. Even though I personally didnt' vote for him, and personally feel that lacks the character for the job. Because I'm a citizen and I participated in the PROCESS that put him there.

I do understand the difference and I've already stated that I agree with your overall point. Please stop assuming you're the smartest guy in the room. It's unbecoming. I'm merely pointing out that you're not nearly as objective as you think you are, no matter how much you believe it or how many times you say it. No one really is so I wouldn't take it so hard.