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7/17/2017 3:55:10 PM
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I was a huge Marvel fan until recently. The way they've become so politically correct under Disney has lured me away.
Thor - woman now.
Iron Man - black woman.
Captain America - Hydra/Gay
Taking characters of my childhood and destroying them. I understand wanting a more diverse group. Make someone new.
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Editado por crazeeavery: 7/19/2017 3:17:22 PMCap is not going to be Hydra "anymore" https://www.inverse.com/article/17669-captain-america-hydra-[url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]-fake-twist-fans-angry-anti-semetism https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/05/01/america-you-will-get-your-hydra-free-captain-america-back-just-after-the-summer/
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Yep and they're doing the same damn thing to Star wars..
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Hardly. There have been female Jedi before. If that's what you're on about
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Editado por crazeeavery: 7/19/2017 3:15:43 PMEverything is going to female leads including their new game's. I really didn't see it till I saw that Battlefield 2 story was going with a female as well. After 2 movies and 1 game coming you can start to see a trend. The next move we will probably find out Rey is gay.
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Battlefield going with a female lead is more to...ennoble the Empire, I think. Since this is their story, it's trying to paint them in a favorable light compared to what we saw. That beneath the authoritarianism, there's a very egalitarian, non-biased structure. As to Rey, I doubt it.
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Editado por crazeeavery: 7/19/2017 8:32:54 PMIt's on purpose, to quote an interview. “As you may have noticed, hopefully you did, the lead character in the Force Awakens was the lightsaber wielding Rae, a very strong empowered female heroine who really took the movie and the world by storm,” she said. “Let me just say, you know, that was purposeful, that was purposeful on Disney’s part and purposeful from the filmmaker’s perspective to make that lead character a strong empowered female.” Filippatos also highlighted the upcoming Star Wars film “Rogue One” pointing out that Disney also put “very strong female as the lead.” It's not a bad thing if they have a female lead but they're doing it with everything.
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Two movies. After 6 films, copious novels, and dozens of games. Plus, the movie after next is a male lead again (Han Solo), as are most of the Stories movies.
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Editado por crazeeavery: 7/19/2017 8:35:48 PMOne trilogy (1 out 2 to come), one separate none Jedi movie and now in their next game, and the 6 films and most of everything else wasn't Disney. They even admit it's purposeful. They're even looking for female directors for the movies "There’s nothing we’d like more than to find a female director for Star Wars." Like I said I don't mind a female lead but they're trying to push it in to everything. That's just Star wars.. In marvel we have seen two characters go from male to female and one to a gay bad guy. Just look at Disney moves as a whole. Most are Female leads.
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Editado por SoullessRaptor: 7/19/2017 8:19:45 PMTwo of them are technically different characters, standing in the boots of the precursors. Cap hasn't changed at all of his own volition, with the allegiance change being a temporal meddling, and the sexuality change being a rumor As to Disney, they've always gone for female characters being prominent.
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Editado por crazeeavery: 7/19/2017 8:24:26 PMYeah the temporal meddling was the excuse they came up with after the backlash. He should be back to normal after the summer. The others, they had to do it like that. They couldn't just say they're female now..
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And it makes sense both times. Mjolnir has picked a female wielder before (Diana of Themyscyra), and Pepper has taken on the Iron Man suit before, up to and including being her own hero now. As to Cap, I honestly think they already planned that it was a temporal alteration.
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Woah woah i already thought him leading Hydra was ridiculous but Cap is gay now too Wtf ?
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Actually not true. Just fam speculation/reading between lines
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Couldn't agree more.
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To be fair to Marvel, though, they have repeatedly cycled heroes in and out of their mainlines. There have been something like three Iron Men (Pepper was one of them briefly), 4 Caps (I think), a couple of Thors, etc. Also, each of those heroes has fleshed themselves out differently from their namesake. Foster!Thor is much smarter, more of a strategist, while Riri has become her own heroine as Ironheart.
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That just shows poor storytelling. Look at DC Rebirth. The new 52 was a consequence of much bigger events that built up to something. Each character had a place and meaning, big or small. Deathstroke, Batman, and Flash have some damn good storylines right now.
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Marvel's new heroes are interesting, too. Plus, each of the heroes does have a reason for the change.
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But was it a good reason?
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In each case, yes. Cap's alliance change was due to the machinations of a reality-bending metahuman, which restored his youth, but also implanted a false past. Ironheart replaced Tony after he was put into a coma during Civil War II by Ms. Marvel Jane became Thor after Odinsson proved himeslf unworthy of Mjolnir, and she was found worthy.
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Wait, they changed the Marvel characters? Are you talking about in the Comics universe or the cinematic?
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Keep in mind, though, that a TON of characters have worn the mantles of the Marvel core Iron Man: James Rhodes, Pepper Potts, Riri Williams, Victor von Doom Captain America: Bucky Barnes, Sam Wilson, John Walker Thor: Red Norvell, Beta Ray Bill, Eric Masterson, Jane Foster
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It's stupid. Switching out actors is sensible, but the identities of the superheroes in the Marvel Universe is just dumb.
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It makes sense, honestly. Marvel's heroes are either human (Tony, Steve), or have a block of powers granted by equipment (Thor). It's a way to change up a hero, keep them from being the same old same old.
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Touché, but that doesn't mean you have to make them socially correct. Just because a character is a white male doesn't make it offensive. Diversity makes it interesting, but don't change characters already put into the universe just to be socially correct.
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I think what it does more is change perspectives and attitudes. Someone who grew up poor and inner-city (Williams) gives a total difference in perspective than someone who grew up rich and upper-crust (Stark). A military man from WWII can give a different perspective than one from Desert Storm.
