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Edited by gallp13:
1/8/2016 12:57:47 PM
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[b]TL: DR : Y2 Balance >> Y1 Balance [/b]
[b]ROLL BACK ? [/b]
Hmmm ....... Let me see ....
1. OP Suros
2. OHK sniper SGS
3. OHK sniper Fusions
4. Sniper hand cannons
5. Months and months of Thorn
6. OP Red Death
7. Last Round Snipers
8. Original Vex Mythoclast (thx [b]Feyanin[/b])
[b]No thank you.[/b]
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[b]BALANCE IN A MESS ?[/b]
I agree with Nobel 6 - Y1 had way more problems. Y2 Destiny has progressively improved and is on the right path facts don't lie;
Percent Kills Top 10 Primaries Control last patch to 6 Jan 2016
4.25% MIDA Multi-Tool
4.03% The Last Word
2.57% Zhalo Supercell
2.22% SUROS Regime
1.99% Hawksaw
1.74% Red Death
1.68% Hawkmoon
1.67% Nirwen's Mercy
1.52% Monte Carlo
1.32% Bad Juju
Data across roughly 4.2 million players shows an improving spread - leave it a month for "MIDA Madness" to settle and these number should even out a little more. Then tweak, if needed, to even the spread and provide maximum choice.
[b]Again no thank you.[/b]
The facts show this is the most balanced Destiny so far.
[i][b]Source[/b] : www.guardian.gg game data files.[/i]
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I would like to know trials (only trials) sniper rifle / secondary weapon data. Do you have that handy?
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[quote]I would like to know trials (only trials) sniper rifle / secondary weapon data. Do you have that handy?[/quote] Data below
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Edited by gallp13: 1/9/2016 7:29:58 AM[b]There you go[/b] : Trials Only Specials 9th Dec to 8th Jan 19.39% 1000-Yard Stare 9.02% Conspiracy Theory-D 5.36% Invective 3.74% Party Crasher +1 1.65% Stillpiecer 1.47% Harrowed Defiance of Yasmin 1.45% Binary Dawn 1.17% The Chaperone 1.05% Eirene RR4 0.83% Harrowed Silence of A'arn 52.89% other Not surprising mostly SGs and res-snipers . Nothing else really works in trials does it ? No would run a fusion in their present state in trials or much else for the matter - these need a little tweak to make then viable. Every one has at least CTD and TYS so these are most popular.
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The problem in my mind stems from trials, and the overuse of 1 weapon. 1,000 yard stare.
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You have to look at the ease of getting it vs other Snipers. Plus, only 3 Snipers can Rez Kill/Super shutdown. 1K Stare and the 2 Omolon ones. The 1K Stare is given to everyone with an alright roll. There's nothing wrong with the amount of usage it gets considering how many few rez Snipers we have.
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And that's all you see in trials is res sniping. I personally am really sick of it. It's dumb. Hopefully these weapons get brought in line with the other snipers.
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Res sniping is a valuable part of the game for advanced players. It adds another layer of mechanic. Res Sniping only exists at the highest level PvP, ToO. And those players, love it. It doesn't affect the lower chunk of players or even the mid tier of players
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It affects the game, it doesn't matter at what level of play. Everyone that plays trials is affected by res sniping, and of course that's part of why 1,000 is so utilized. Its also utilized for the first head shot, or body shot and quick primary kill. It's too easy and effective, and that's why it's all you see in today's game. This will change I'm very certain.
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The body shot switch to primary is slower TTK than any primary in the game. If you're being killed by that and making that into a point, you aren't very good at the game. Res Sniping is required in the game, why? To punish players for dying. And because their is a respawn animation mixed with an immunity shield, Rez Sniping is utilized. The fix for so much usage of 1K Stare is add more high impact Snipers. Not nerf the 1K.
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I'm not dying by it, I was using it as a tactic. Especially if you miss the head and they are rushing. It's so easy a blind caveman can do it. Sniping is going to have a revision. And I don't think just to the 1,000 yard, it's going to be to sniping in general. As most people are asking for; either descoping, slower aiming, more flinch, etc. not much anyone can do but play this meta out and wait for it.
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Nicely done.
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Edited by gallp13: 1/8/2016 11:58:12 PMThank you. Perceptions are important but so are the facts.
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You forgot VexM with 56 rounds clip and 43 body / 53 crit )). Do you remember that beast?
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Edited by gallp13: 1/8/2016 12:55:02 PMThank you for reminding me - how could I have forgotten ! I'll add it to the list above. Do you remember the outrage when it was nerfed ? An ocean of salt. Balance - if this gun was in crucible it was game over.
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Science! :D
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[b]SCIENCE[/b] !
