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7/11/2022 4:42:59 PM
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Does PVP feel off to anyone?

I know the current healing/weapon meta is something to comment on but I mean overall. I can't put my finger on what the stand out issue is but PVP just feels... weird. My friends, and me to a lesser degree, preform okay but despite winning a few matches we feel exasperated after a short session. Of course, there are a few highlights here and there, the ups and downs of typical crucible, but overall just a very nagging feeling that leaves a poor taste in our mouths. I'm looking for other opinions on this. Again, I know healing meta is a big thing but I mean like the core experience. Anyone else feeling this?

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  • Nope it's still the same hunter simulator as last season and the one b 4

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  • Edited by DarkOmen_ZA: 7/15/2022 2:23:59 AM
    We need more double primary players and crucible lobbies will starve, forcing those guys who tbag to actually realise they are bad at the game. It doesn't stop there though, they will find cheats. Hopefully then some of them will get banned. Still doesn't stop there, they will create new accounts and continue. Actually nevermind yeah crucible cannot be saved rn. I take back what I said...

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  • [quote]I know the current healing/weapon meta is something to comment on but I mean overall. I can't put my finger on what the stand out issue is but PVP just feels... weird. My friends, and me to a lesser degree, preform okay but despite winning a few matches we feel exasperated after a short session. Of course, there are a few highlights here and there, the ups and downs of typical crucible, but overall just a very nagging feeling that leaves a poor taste in our mouths. I'm looking for other opinions on this. Again, I know healing meta is a big thing but I mean like the core experience. Anyone else feeling this?[/quote] All of crucible blows. 99% of all games decided in less than 1 minute.

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  • It’s become increasingly difficult to get primary kills. It’s become a charge in/slide, shoot your wad of special ammo, retreat and re-position. Fire primary if you have to but don’t risk your life on prolonged engagement. Get that special, rinse and repeat. Incredibly boring.

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  • Weapons and ability wise I have no problems atm with the game. Although, from recent matches, I can say there is a marked difference (imo) how PvP is playing on PC versus Console. PC just seems smoother flowing, with maybe a touch of lag. Console just seems to stutter a bit regardless if the other players platform is different than mine. Just as much issues against the same console as the other. (Its not the connection at my end or Bungie's. I went through everything with a tech last year and they found a malfunctioning dohicky in a junction box down the road that went unresolved till I had them check everything out before when I'd get random issues and they just ran new fiber optics for 1.5 gig service and rechecked everything.) On console I've had many fights recently against good players where things don't look smooth that I've always put down to lag and of course them being better. While on PC this week, I've had some good duels against much better people and it's always felt like I had a chance and everything seemed smooth and flawless. There hasn't been any time on PC so far where I've been WTF?!? How'd that happen??? that makes no sense?!? While I get that on console many times. Basically I'm down to thinking I'll just PvP on PC and do everything else on console at this point since my expansions are on console. I don't know if this is do to other peoples Nat's on console or what (mine is set to Nat1 and Open for best gaming response), but man, the difference is there to me. Back to being a meat shield later today in freelance rift and tanking my K/D to rep up XD

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  • The jumping shot accuracy was a good idea but it left a lot of people to find other stratégies and the current meta doesn’t help. I love to play trials and to be honest it feels a little too odd when it comes to the meta. They need to not bring pellet shotguns back to where they were which was incredibly OP but make it so it has a higher consistency. Fusion rifles need to have its range nerfed to half what it is now with the roles you can get from Main ingredient and glacialclasm that destroy from 17m. Pulse rifles are finally back to being in a good spot but scout and auto rifles need a tiny buff to keep up with them. 120 and 180 cannons dont need a major buff but allow for more aggressive builds or even special perks for them would help a lot to try to compete with 140s. With 3 peaking gone snipers and weapons like the Lorentz Driver and Arby are dominating due to the crazy amount of lane camping. That and when it comes to sidearms it is really with three main ones, Drang being the best with craft ability, Tresspasser, and Devils Ruin. I think the main focus bungie should be doing is small buffs and just adding more weapons with different perks to keep the game diverse and make it so the two popular play styles of sit in the back or become an ape will gradually phase out as people obtain different strategies due to not just better balancing but more optional tactics.

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    • Totally sucks with newer content destroying game play and cheating cross play rats stealing your kills as well as getting booted out of game for no reason

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    • For me it’s the maps. The vaulted maps need to come back, and Disjunction can be deleted

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      • Edited by Manaan1138: 7/14/2022 2:39:03 AM
        Being killed by anything but a primary weapon 90% of the time is what annoys me the most. Kills with special weapons, heavy weapons, supers and abilities are way too frequent. That, the awful lag, the abysmal matchmaking and the lack of lobby balancing.

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      • They need to separate the sweats from the average player. How can an average player like me enjoy pvp when I'm dead from an impossible snipe over and over again? If it's impossible to beat what's the point huh Bungie?!

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        • When was the last time PvP felt “on” to anyone? IMO, The best year for PvP was 2018 (Forsaken/Black Armoury/Drifter/Opulence) With SBMM, weapons chase (Luna/Not Forgotten, Mountain Top, Redrix etc) No crossplay… More maps are desperately needed for a start!

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          • For me it’s the ability spam

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          • It was ruined soon as crossplay was adopted. People on PC with no flinch destroying everyone on console constantly.

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            • The overall pvp sandbox is screwed, you cant do anything to save it anymore. They nerfed a ton of gameplays. They made a ton of weapons inconsistent They made us becoming healing tanks They nerfed many weapons because "bwah bwah i got killed so it needs a nerf" They removed a ton of maps for 0 reasons. They removed a ton of modes. Lag bugs etc...are more rampant than ever. Its a lost cause, most pvp players stopped caring about this game pvp and moved on to other games to satisfy their fps pvp desires. The rest is just making money out of this game with paid services or streams. Pvp will never feel the same anymore, no matter what they do with the meta. The whole sandbox is rotten.

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            • Honestly, it's because everyone stopped playing. With the AE changes, it did get less fun, but with most gone, now it's just major noobs and major sweats. I either win a gunfight by a long shot or completely roll, or I get clapped by an adept pally and lose hard.

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            • It’s felt off for at least 2 years when they stopped doing anything with it

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            • From a console perspective, cross-play has had a very negative effect on PvP.

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              • Edited by madgamer438: 7/14/2022 3:38:30 PM
                [quote]I know the current healing/weapon meta is something to comment on but I mean overall. I can't put my finger on what the stand out issue is but PVP just feels... weird. My friends, and me to a lesser degree, preform okay but despite winning a few matches we feel exasperated after a short session. Of course, there are a few highlights here and there, the ups and downs of typical crucible, but overall just a very nagging feeling that leaves a poor taste in our mouths. I'm looking for other opinions on this. Again, I know healing meta is a big thing but I mean like the core experience. Anyone else feeling this?[/quote] Apart from the lag, you know, you get the drop on somebody and empty an entire clip into them and they turn and one shot you and right after you die, they drop dead, then there's all the cheaters. Nope, I haven't noticed anything. 😂 No wonder this game's dead or dying.

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              • Im is at a loss with the connections in pvp. It feels like I'm on the -blam!- end of the connections every.. single... game... even tho my Internet is solid in all other games. Its constant insta deaths and people doing this laggy movement. Even when I get thr 1st shot on someone not facing me they can still turn and somehow melt me for a trade.. I'm sick of it. There is nothing I can do to fix this and belive me i have been trying.. bungie should be -blam!- ashamed with them self for letting crucible be in the state its been in for so dam long..

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                • Edited by THE ANDATRON: 7/15/2022 10:37:14 PM
                  Posted about this on another users post, but personally, I feel it has been worse since they made most crucible gamemodes connection based matchmaking, pretty sure it was around the time shadowkeep came out or during that expansion when they changed it from skilled based matchmaking to connection based matchmaking. I'm also pretty sure d2 had sbmm since launch in 2017 and pretty sure d1 also had sbmm since launch in 2014(joined when legendary edition for xbox one came out around 2015 so I'm not sure 100%). A few people on the other post(s) I responded in also felt had the same issue(s) or they encountered similar things as I did. Again, this is my opinion and stating what I feel about pvp at present, I have discussed in more detail on the other posts so feel free to read through them if you wish...

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                • Edited by Doctor_Roidberg: 7/12/2022 6:03:47 PM
                  SMGs should not have auto rifle range. I shouldn’t be losing a duel at hand cannon range against a Funnelweb. Healing meta is cancer. Classy Restoration Wormhusk chimp brains ruining PvP.

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                • i really cant put my finger on it either is it the radiant throwing knife spam? lorely barricade camping everywhere? lord of wolves / chaperone with omnioculus every other game? the worm husk + classy restoration crutch garbage every game? really hard to narrow it down.

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                • That taste in your mouth is from Aldis and possibly ligma. If you’re not good at this game don’t play. Go back to Minecraft. 🤡

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                  • Bc it’s been so campy and boring lately Special ammo has been reduced, everyone is just camping lanes with pulse rifles or sitting in their spawn hard scoping. The majority of the destiny community is terrible at pvp, and this meta is not helping Personally, I don’t think healing is an issue. Warlocks have been able to heal since forever, rifts, Phoenix dive, consuming grenades, devour…

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                  • More and more people using chronus and the likes or whatever the -blam!- it’s called I’m convinced of it

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                    • They shifted in a lead change to old bungie team had halo fanatics in there design team this time they have a guy who was fan of world of Warcraft that why the pvp is been leading towards build craft and setup. I personally love the halo team but I guess this is what ppl want because y1 d2 Made everybody run away

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