I had a lot of old 300 guns that had good rolls but dismantled due to vault issues...wish we could have a vault for each character and a main small vault to switch items if need be, I like collecting and want each character to have many guns and load outs lol. I've used thorn and TLW but it's not as good as ppl make it seem I do better running a sniper rifle LMG only no primary or red death for multiple engagements with enemies and do fine