[quote]Salvations Edge straight up needs the timer removed(normal). It's an artificial difficulty plain and simple. look at the clears for it and it's -blam!- compared to all the other raids.[/quote] I’ve done all the raids including salvations edge and I’m happy to play any of them and enjoy doing them apart from salvations edge. It’s not that it’s too difficult it’s just too exacting. If you don’t get everything more or less perfect then it’s a wipe, there’s very little room for error. I’m overstating here slightly but it’s enough to make me not bother doing it, in fact it’s the only raid exotic I don’t have and I’m not actively chasing it.