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8/31/2016 3:14:42 AM
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Head shots should de-scope period. No question on that. Way too many people are using snipers as their primary. It ruins the game. They made a game for just that and it's called Sniper Elite. The only ones fighting the de-scoping are the ones who barley use primaries. It's the only way to detour this over usage of snipers.
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  • They should have a time you can scope in I snipe but when I aim in I kill someone in a few seconds there should be a 15 second timer after that it descopes you and the cool down is five seconds

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  • I use primaries more than any secondary and I can tell you right now snipers don't need descope. Every map is cqc aside from 3 that are only available in classic 6v6. Stop trying to ruin the game. Primaries need to be buffed. Snipers and shotguns don't need to be touched.

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  • I'm not trying to ruin the game man. I'm saying what needs to be done. Buffing half of the primaries and descope on headshots for snipers. It's an obvious need. You must be a sniper....lol

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  • Yes you are. You add descope and literally no one will bother using snipers because of the way maps are designed in Destiny. But I guess you don't think that far. Feel free to check my stats. I use primaries more than twice as much as any secondary. So no, you're wrong. I'm assuming you just want everyone to use shotguns as a viable secondary and that's it ? You sound biased as fućk. This game will never have descope. Bungie knows not to be [b]that[/b] stupid. Adding a mechanic like that will not work here. At the MAX, the only thing that should happen to snipers is increase the flinch [u]slightly.[/u] Anything else and you're going to completely destroy that weapon class.

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  • And right now snipers dominate the Crucible, no matter at which range. A change needs to happen.

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  • Because primaries aren't what they used to be. No need to touch snipers. God fućking damn. Does anyone on this forum use their brain at all ? What kept snipers and shotguns in check in year one ? [b][u]PRIMARIES.[/u][/b]

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  • And Bungie stated more than once that they are happy with the current primary TTK. Since you like using your brain: What do you think does this imply? It means that we will not get substantially faster primary TTKs, because it goes against Bungie's design philosophy. Shotguns are much less of a problem in Y2, compared to snipers.

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  • That shows how little they play the game.

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  • https://imgur.com/a/ZqfTx This is the same stats for 6v6's which are played more than any playlist. You do not have a clue what you're talking about. How are you going to say shotguns aren't close to snipers when they have MORE kills than any other weapon in 6's ?!

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  • I'm just a top 900 player with over 13 days of playtime in the Crucible. And funnily enough I only play 6vs6 as a Soloq player. I actually play since day 1 and shotguns are a non-issue right now. The Stormcaller melee outranges a max impact shotgun's OHK, which means that we are talking about Shotguns being lethal around the blink strike range. If you consider this to be an issue, then you are the issue. If you don't understand why the shotgun numbers are vastly inflated, you might want to think about it. Since I doubt that you know what to look for, I'll give you a hint: Sniper Body shot to primary swap inflates the primary numbers, and thus deflates the sniper kills. The second issue is skill. In lower skilled brackets, most players simply lack the skill to perform well with a sniper, while most people in higher brackets know how to kite a shotgunner. If you don't understand why a short to long ranged OHK is conceptually automatically superior to a melee ranged OHK, you might want to rethink everything you "know" about balancing.

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  • If you don't admit that primaries are lacking being the issue then you need to rethink your shit yourself. Year one this was never an, "issue." The stats speak for themselves. You can speak your own experiences but you can't beat stats my guy.

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  • Modificato da Killlerschaf: 9/1/2016 7:04:16 AM
    Someone doesn't remember the Felsniper's with shot package and rangefinder. Anyhow, you might want to go up a reply: I already said that primaries will not receive any significant buff because it's against their design philosophy. Bungie likes the current primary TTK. You can ask for a faster effective primary TTK all you want (I did it for 9 months now), we will not get it back. And thus, the only reasonable question to ask, is when we can get the sniper rework. The stats don't say anything if you don't interpret them. I also do not remember being your friend.

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  • You are wrong. More than 70% of PVP players use snipers non stop. A real sniper in a game only has time to get off a shot or two before he needs to move on. Destiny has obviously not addressed this problem because a multitude of bullets does nothing to the head when sniping. Obvious game flaw mechanic. I could care less what you use. It doesn't take a genius to figure out hits to the head a descope would stop half these retards from using a sniper as a primary. Body shots should stay at a flinch but a random direction instead of the same flinch every time. It's funny seeing people's reactions. The real 'snipers' in this game agree with what me and countless others have been saying. If it takes more than one or two shots to get your headshot than maybe you need practice or should find a new weapon. I'm not saying you I'm saying players in general. Try looking down a scope while I'm hitting you upside your head constantly. It's impossible to stay looking through a scope. It's called common sense.

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  • No. That would completely ruin PvE. Here's a solution, ask for buffs to primaries.

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  • It wouldn't ruin PVP except for the whiny players. If you can't get a free shot or two off then it's time to move on and find a new snipe spot. They can buff primaries but snipers still need descope on head shots. It would solve the problem of snipers being used as primaries.

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  • Having powerful primaries would solve the issue of snipers AND shotguns as being used as primaries. Neither need nerfed.

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  • I never said it would ruin PvP. I did however, say it would ruin PvE.

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  • I read it wrong but it still needs to be done. I've never had a problem in PVE sniping. It all depends on where you snipe from.

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  • In boss fights, a de scope mechanic would completely ruin PvE.

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  • Which boss is hitting you in the head? We've never had that problem. Body shots here and there for a bit of flinching. Depends on where you stand.

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  • Knowing Bungie splash damage would cause de scope as well. But any boss can hit you in the head. It's pretty easy for them too. Especially the guy on Mars. I forgot his name. The massive Cabal guy. The Valus.

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  • Ol' Rockets McDickface is what we call him. Sniping his head behind cover keeps you from getting hit by him.

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  • I like that name. It suits him. I know what to do against him but my point still stands. This de scope would still be very possible in PvE. It shouldn't happen. Simply buffing primaries will fix that. Primaries being weak are the only reason that specials are being overused so much right now.

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  • I agree on the primaries needing a buff. Every time a primary does good the snipers and shotgunners cry nerf. I'm just trying to put these secondaries back where they belong. In the backpack.

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  • I understand that but nerfing them like that does no one any good. That'll make sniper rifles nearly unusable.

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