I've refined my stance over the months to be this. Flinch moves the same way every time and re-centers in a consistent and timely way. People have gotten used to using a poorly implemented and predictable mechanic instead of actual gun skill. When you are presented with the right opportunity to counter a sniper and are doming them repeatedly they should not be able to get accurate shots off as consistently and easily as they do. There are situations that should allow any medium to long range primary to counter a sniper. The problem is that no sniper will run from that fight because the current flinch makes it a very low risk activity because they know they just have to wait for the flinch to re-center. Allowing sniping to become a low risk high reward activity. My kid, Whose a better sniper than me, spent over a week studying what happened while sniping under fire. We purposely put her in spots where she was exposed to scouts and pulses. We did this with 3 different sniper rifles of varied Aim assist and no Unflinching. We watched as the flinch consistently re-centered on its own and she had to do nothing but wait. That's a terrible and broken mechanic that in no way promotes real skill. It artificially increases the effectiveness of snipers. Flinch movement needs to be randomized and not re-center. This would mean that [b]actual thumb skill[/b] (Something [b]Bungie [/b]talks about wanting to promote) is needed to reacquire your target instead of timing a broken mechanic. And yes it should be gave the same across all weapons. A change like this will have very little affect on weapons that fire quicker and run and gun because you already already constantly requiring your target. I'm not for any kind of nerf the weapon itself. Just the flinch mechanic.

[quote]Don't faint, I'm not saying they shouldn't kill with one headshot, they should. Hear me out: there are two ways to balance snipers in this game and rid us from the scrubs that team bodyshot (takes no skill). One idea: If you get shot while scoped with a sniper, you get kicked out of being scoped (Halo did this well) now let's say you have the unflinching perk, that could be a special case or that perk could be eliminated to level the field. Idea Two: Headshots are instant death and body shots do very little damage (perhaps on par with a scout rifle) I would welcome this, because it would weed out the people that spam body shots as well as those who body shot and follow up with a quick draw primary. Opinions are welcome and don't be salty if you don't agree, just present a good counter argument[/quote]

I don't know if descope would work in destiny that's the only problem. I love halo, well 2,3, 4 was sub par and I don't even know what 5 is trying to do. But descope is on every gun, when in the game it wasn't in 4. I think that could would though to an extent with snipers or honestly they should just make the flinch when getting hit by anything especially a gun with HCR literally unbearable so you have to back off or get killed. And that would be a pretty easy fix without changing a mechanic completely.

Snipers are fine but add a little bit of sway. Or increased flinch when shot. Snipers should always be 1 head 2 body for a kill. Team body shotting will always be a thing so don't forget about it.

I say add sway like NLB. Would get rid of a lot of those walking scoped snipers.

I would make it so, that the handling gets reduced (heavy reduction) this way its harder to half scope (for your radar) and it takes longer to fisnish off with primairys. In return, give back the ammo bungie nerfed