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3/6/2016 6:03:15 AM
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It's multiplayer player vs player. It's literally the dictionary definition of competitive
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Competitive is a word associated with balance, is a fight between a 200lb man and a child competitive? Even though they're competing to win? No it isn't. Apply that logic to COD multiplayer, it's a free for all of weapons and abilities and thus isn't regarded as competitive.
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But all the weapons and abilities have their pros AND cons and they're all balanced. So it is competitive
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Just because you say?
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You just said competitive is a word for balance and I just explained how COD is balanced...so...no not just because I say
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COD isn't balanced it's a loadout shooter, as opposed to an Arena shooter which is balanced and competitive.
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Just because it's a load out with different weapons doesn't mean they're not balanced. For example, the shieva is a semi automatic, powerful assault rifle. It can kill fast but it's harder to be accurate with it. A KN-44 is an automatic assault rifle. It isn't as powerful per shot but you can get off more shots at once and be slightly less accurate. BALANCE.
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You clearly have no idea so I'm done talking to the wall
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lol yea ok
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He's right. It's like in Halo. A BR would dominate a AR at medium range but would have trouble with a DMR at long range. A AR would destroy a DMR user up close in most situations. Same applies to cod even if it is a loadout system. A smg is great in close range battles but in a longer ranged battle a AR will almost always kill an SMG. And the SMGs that can get AR range typically don't shoot as fast as the close ranged SMGs which then puts them at a disadvantage to those SMGs up close. That right there is balance.
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No actually that's not the definition. By definition a competitive game would have to have their players gather to one place where they face of against eachother in regulated tournaments with real prizes. That's competitive.
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That's what you do in COD
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Yes but I am saying just because it has PvP doesn't really make it competitive. Destiny has PvP, would you say that's competitive?
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Yes. Any PVP is competitive because you're COMPETING against players to win
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Mmmm no not really, like I said games like Destiny can't be competitive because it is on matchmaking, it has no private matches so you can't hold a regulated tournaments. There is a difference between casual and competitive and Destiny only casual. CoD is both, gears of war is both, halo is both etc. That is why they are competitive.
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The matches you play in any pvp game is regulated and a competition. Whether it's private or not. You're fighting against other to win the game in one certain place where people can only do certain things that apply to everyone. That's a competition plain and simple. You're competing to win.
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Hmm so if I go into a public and just use my fists just for fun it means that I am in a competitive match? Public matches are not competitive, they are casual. A competitive match is 2 teams or 2 players go in a private match and go all out tryhard against eachother. That is competitive. Running around and getting camos or trolling in a public match is not competitive. It is very simple to understand. Public matches are casual, just because it is PvP, it doesn't make it competitive. Answer this. Is The Division competitive?
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Ok yes people do go around and act idiotic a lot in COD but they're still in a competition. Just because someone doesn't take a competition seriously doesn't negate the fact that it's still a competition. And I don't know that much about the division so I can't say on that game
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No that is not competition. You don't know what is and I have no other way to explain, you are just being dense. There is no competition in trolling. Running around with fists or just letting people kill because you feel like it or trying to hit a trickshot. It is not competitive it is CASUAL. Competitive to have 2 coordinated teams(clans) in a private match where they give it their all, go full tryhard and actually try to win. Public matches are CASUAL. Also the Division is a PvPvE where you kill other players for loot. Here's another question which would be easier for yiu to understand. GTA4 free mode, would you say that is competitive?
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So I guess by your logic in public matches I'm not trying to win huh? I'm just fighting people for no reason? The score is there just to be there? No other reason? It keeping up with k/d is completely pointless? No. All those factors are there because people are competing to win. I don't know how else to say that. Yes there are people who troll and act stupid but that doesn't mean public matches as a whole are not competitive because of them. The scoreboard is there to keep up with who is winning. Im fighting to win. It keeps up with k/d to help me keep up with how well I'm fighting and attempting to win. Any battle between 2 or more people to win something IS A COMPETITION.
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If not everyone is trying to win it is not competitive. For a match to be competitive would mean both teams get their best loadouts, have coordination, use mics and go all out tryhard. The CWL(CoD World League) is competitive because objective of the CWL is to have the best teams compete against eachother to win prize money. They are there to win, not to troll. You might play pubs to win but that is you not everyone. If you are the one trying to win then that makes YOU a competitive person but it does not make the match competitive if not everyone is trying to win. Example: My team is going for trickshots whereas I am the only trying to win. I can't win unless my team is also trying to win as well. Since they are not trying to win then there is nothing competitive about that match. I go into a private match with 3 other teammates against 4 other players in a 4v4 match. Both teams with the objective to win by using communication and working as a team to accomplish one MUTUAL goal. Both teams going all out tryhard.
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Going in to public and punching people is skewing the -blam!- out of his point. Just saying.
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Not sure if you're saying that to be on his side or mine?
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You see? It sounds silly to say that is competitive.
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@Fish I could act foolish and take the competition out of any competitive game you can name. The doesn't mean to isn't a game made for competition lol. Your argument is that every match isn't competitive, but COD and other PvP games are still competitive no matter how you feel about it.
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Modificato da CapoBlue: 3/6/2016 11:22:13 PMOk obviously you didn't get what I said. PUBLIC matches are not competitive. A competitive match is 2 teams going all out where everyone has the same goal and that is to win. That is what private matches are for, so teams can go against eachother in a competitive scene where they EVERYONE is trying to win and not just 1 or 2 people while everyone else trolls or trickshots. Division is not competitive, Destiny is not competitive, those are examples of PvP games with no competitive feature to it. At not point did I say CoD is not competitive so I have no idea where you got that from. [quote]Your argument is that every match isn't competitive, but COD and other PvP games are still competitive no matter how you feel about it.[/quote] This was never my argument.
