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12/28/2015 11:36:26 PM
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[quote][quote]LOL you are sighting legislation!
2. A. and B.
Read them.[/quote]
(D) any destructive device. [b]Such term does not include an antique firearm[/b]
Again, lack of comprehension
[quote]You are stating legislation for firearms. I have the definition as defined by the ATF.[/quote]
https://www.atf.gov/file/11241/download
what is the site address? Isnt it ATF? AGAIN, comprehension failure..
[quote]I have never claimed legislation has any effects of antique firearms, but only that antique firearms are a class of firearms, and therefore firearms.
The fact that they are called "antique firearms" and fall under a category of "firearm" under the ATF, hence it having specific rules/exemptions/a definition of a type/class of firearm means it is...
A firearm!
Thank you for showing everyone who utterly stupid you are![/quote]
The term [b]“firearm” shall not include an antique firearm[/b] or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector’s item and is [b]not likely to be used as a weapon.[/b]
AGAIN, comprehension failure.
LOL, your logic: "I don't care if the ATF in America doesn't consider Antique Firearms a firearm in America! I'm an Australian soldier so I know better!"
I keep coming back for the laughs, thx[/quote]
Were you this butt hurt?
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LOL 88% still say you are wrong!!!
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The term “firearm” shall not include an antique firearm or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector’s item and is not likely to be used as a weapon. You just choose to ignore this little inconvenient part and keep quoting what classifies an antique firearm and insisting that because you think they are the same the US govt thinks they are too. You bullshit analogies to jewelry and cars don't apply because there is no legislation dictating they are a different legal entity. I have literally never talked to someone as dumb as you. And I wouldn't brag about having the forum's votes considering a) you changed the question and b) you claim they are all morons anyway. High time you were muted I think. G'day.
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Lol No kid. Just no. [quote] 26 U.S.C. § 5845(G) For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Antique Firearms” means any firearm not intended or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. [/quote] It's all right there and even gives examples of what classifies and why. To classify there means it first must be a class, which means they are a class/classification of firearm, which means they are... A firearm! You can't argue against the ATF's definition. You are cherry picking a subparagraph of legislation which is referring to other firearms than antique firearms. The LINK provided is the OFFICIAL ATF definition. I love that you are this stupid. It's entertaining.
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It doesn't. There is the ATF definition. Notice it's reference to "firearm" throughout. Sorry kid. There is a poll about this in off topic. 90% of the users agree with the facts I am displaying. Never get tired of being proven wrong?
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Modificato da BK1223: 12/28/2015 11:56:16 PMI'm seriously worried about you. [quote][quote] Does that mean that antique FIREARMS are not firearms? [/quote] Over 90% said yes?[/quote]
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[quote] Does that mean that antique FIREARMS are not firearms? [/quote] Over 90% said yes?
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It's all there for you to see at the top. 88% think you and your little friend are morons. Enjoy!
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Reread your question you moron. 88% think YOU are an idiot.
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[quote] So I put it out to you, the intelligent members of these forums, are antique FIREARMS actually firearms? [/quote] So somehow 89% of people saying "yes" to that question disproves me? Wow... You must be high.
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[quote][quote] So I put it out to you, the intelligent members of these forums, are antique FIREARMS actually firearms? [/quote] So somehow 89% of people saying "yes" to that question disproves me? Wow... You must be high.[/quote] No this is what you said dipshit. [quote]I'm seriously worried about you. [quote][quote] Does that mean that antique FIREARMS are not firearms? [/quote] Over 90% said yes?[/quote][/quote] Nice try dick.
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Modificato da Dieselrose: 12/29/2015 1:04:27 AMYou pointed at my question. I gave you the question. 90% of people are now saying you are a moron. Edit: Now 91%
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Does that mean antique firearms are not firearms? 90% said yes. What the -blam!- is wrong with you?
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Modificato da Dieselrose: 12/29/2015 1:13:28 AM[quote] Firearms - Guides - Importation & Verification of Firearms - National Firearms Act Definitions - Antique Firearm [/quote] Now pay attention... [quote] National Firearms Act Definitions - Antique Firearm [/quote] "Definitions" Please tell me more... Edit: wrong with me? It's clear to see that I'm not the one who needs to come to grips with being WRONG.
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Modificato da BK1223: 12/29/2015 1:17:54 AMYou literally typed in your OP "Does that mean antique firearms are not firearms?" People answered yes. Something is wrong with you. I'm concerned. [spoiler]and it should ask "legally considered" firearms, not what you think they are, no one cares what you think they are [/spoiler]
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Read the OP. Notice it doesn't say edited. Notice where I asked the question. It does not say what you are saying. So you are not only WRONG but now lying to try and cover your tracks?
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Modificato da BK1223: 12/29/2015 1:39:07 AMDude. You really can't read can you? [quote][quote]An antique FIREARM is exempt from ATF legislation that effect other CLASSES of FIREARMS. [b]Does that mean that antique FIREARMS are not firearms?[/b] Above is the ATF definition of what makes an antique FIREARM a antique FIREARM. Notice the multiple references in the ATF definition to them being FIREARMS. There are certain users of these forums that believe antique FIREARMS are in fact physically not FIREARMS because firearm legislation does not apply antique FIREARMS. [/quote][/quote]
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Obviously you can't read... The actual question is at the bottom. At the end. After it explains the situation and points out that there are idiots, you, who cannot admit being wrong.
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Yea. You post two questions that have polar answer choices and get to pick the results you choose. Sweet. You're an illiterate moron. G'day.
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Modificato da Dieselrose: 12/29/2015 1:42:47 AMIf you think people will cast their vote without actually reading what it's about then you are in fact more stupid than you are already portraying. I made an edit and explained the reasoning behind the edit. Let's see if it makes you look any less stupid. Edit: LOL poll still says that you are WRONG and a moron!
