An antique FIREARM is exempt from ATF legislation that effect other CLASSES of FIREARMS. It is however listed by the ATF as a CLASS of FIREARM.
Above is the ATF definition of what makes an antique FIREARM a antique FIREARM. Notice the multiple references in the ATF definition to them being FIREARMS.
There are certain users of these forums that believe antique FIREARMS are in fact physically not FIREARMS because firearm legislation does not apply antique FIREARMS.
So I put it out to you, the intelligent members of these forums, are antique FIREARMS actually firearms?
Edit: because one particular user is grasping at straws and crying I have edited the introduction, in particular this part:
"Does that mean that antique FIREARMS are not firearms?" because they claim that is what people are voting yes on, rather than the actual question outlined at the end.
Remember an antique car is still a car...
Antique jewellery, still jewellery...
Pretty basic to understand.
Edit 2:
13% of people don't understand that to be deemed an "antique firearm"'it must first be deemed a "firearm".
Edit 3:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guides-importation-verification-firearms-national-firearms-act-definitions-antique
Lol to those kids saying I'm wrong, I guess the ATF is wrong as well?!?
89% agree that you are retarded!
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1 RispondiCounts, can I kill op with it?
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1 RispondiFirst, no one gives a shit. Second, what relevance does antique guns have to do with anything? The vast majority are just collectibles that rarely get fired.
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1 RispondiI love how a user who is only capable of talking about one subject is creating a poll dedicated on calling stupid forum users out. Irony at its finest.
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15% of offtopic are potatoes
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1 RispondiWho cares?
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He who smelt it dealt it, DieselDouche
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24 RisposteModificato da Agwara: 12/29/2015 5:28:06 AMI like how it's the two users distracted on other stuff that the things at hand. Now it's turned into a nice little debacle...
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3 RisposteYawn..... Another shitpost from the American hating gun control guy. It must be Monday.
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1 RispondiIs this the Krusty Krab
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5 RisposteThus, a muzzle loading weapon that meets the definition of an “antique firearm” is not a firearm and may lawfully be received and possessed by a prohibited person under the GCA. In addition, the GCA defines the term “ammunition” to mean “ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm.” Because an “antique firearm” is not a “firearm,” it would is lawful for a prohibited person to receive or possess black powder designed for use in an “antique firearm.” Also, the Federal explosives laws do not make it unlawful for a prohibited person to acquire and possess black powder in quantities not exceeding fifty pounds if it is intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in “antique firearms.” See 18 U.S.C. § 845(a)(5)
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6 Rispostehttps://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/183064356/0/0/1 I take so much pleasure in knowing I affected your life SO much that you had to make a post about your lack of comprehension.
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5 RisposteThe term “firearm” shall not include an antique firearm or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector’s item and is not likely to be used as a weapon. You just choose to ignore this little inconvenient part and keep quoting what classifies an antique firearm and insisting that because you think they are the same the US govt thinks they are too. You bullshit analogies to jewelry and cars don't apply because there is no legislation dictating they are a different legal entity. I have literally never talked to someone as dumb as you. And I wouldn't brag about having the forum's votes considering a) you changed the question and b) you claim they are all morons anyway. High time you were muted I think. G'day.
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20 Risposte[quote][quote]LOL you are sighting legislation! 2. A. and B. Read them.[/quote] (D) any destructive device. [b]Such term does not include an antique firearm[/b] Again, lack of comprehension [quote]You are stating legislation for firearms. I have the definition as defined by the ATF.[/quote] https://www.atf.gov/file/11241/download what is the site address? Isnt it ATF? AGAIN, comprehension failure.. [quote]I have never claimed legislation has any effects of antique firearms, but only that antique firearms are a class of firearms, and therefore firearms. The fact that they are called "antique firearms" and fall under a category of "firearm" under the ATF, hence it having specific rules/exemptions/a definition of a type/class of firearm means it is... A firearm! Thank you for showing everyone who utterly stupid you are![/quote] The term [b]“firearm” shall not include an antique firearm[/b] or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector’s item and is [b]not likely to be used as a weapon.[/b] AGAIN, comprehension failure. LOL, your logic: "I don't care if the ATF in America doesn't consider Antique Firearms a firearm in America! I'm an Australian soldier so I know better!" I keep coming back for the laughs, thx[/quote] Were you this butt hurt?
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4 RisposteOh hai Catfishedrose
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8 RisposteOh, semantics and legalities.
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11 Risposteo, and BTW (3)The term “firearm” means (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. [b]Such term does not include an antique firearm.[/b] Firearm. Any weapon, including a starter gun, which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; the frame or receiver of any such weapon; any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or any destructive device;[b] but the term shall not include an antique firearm[/b]. In the case of a licensed collector, the term shall mean only curios and relics. https://www.atf.gov/file/11241/download [b]The term “firearm” shall not include an antique firearm[/b] or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector’s item and is not likely to be used as a weapon. All of this is taken from the ATF Federal Firearms Regulation Guide 2014. So just because they say firearm that means its a firearm? May I direct your attention to the bold statements above. What you are linking is the process in which the ATF [b]CLASSIFIES[/b] a weapon. The fact that you think the opinion of this forum, or any other, matters more than the definitions per the ATF is HILARIOUS. And the fact the you cant differentiate between VERIFICATION and DEFINITION is also HILARIOUS
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1 RispondiModificato da BK1223: 12/29/2015 1:38:20 AM[quote]An antique FIREARM is exempt from ATF legislation that effect other CLASSES of FIREARMS. [b]Does that mean that antique FIREARMS are not firearms?[/b] Above is the ATF definition of what makes an antique FIREARM a antique FIREARM. Notice the multiple references in the ATF definition to them being FIREARMS. There are certain users of these forums that believe antique FIREARMS are in fact physically not FIREARMS because firearm legislation does not apply antique FIREARMS. [/quote]
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997....
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1 RispondiI dunno