clearly you've yet to think at all. I carefully pointed out why it will not work and the fault is on the players for lack of effort. you are the offended one who has still yet to take a moment to actually think. reality is players do it every day, if you are blaming Bungie and other players for what you've failed to do you would be absolutely clueless as to how it effects those who do with the exact same options available. so thoughtless and braindead it is, crybaby it is, the fault of Bungie or others it is not.

[quote]clearly you've yet to think at all. I carefully pointed out why it will not work and the fault is on the players for lack of effort. you are the offended one who has still yet to take a moment to actually think. reality is players do it every day, if you are blaming Bungie and other players for what you've failed to do you would be absolutely clueless as to how it effects those who do with the exact same options available. so thoughtless and braindead it is, crybaby it is, the fault of Bungie or others it is not.[/quote] I’ve already addressed your “argument.” Saying that event X will inevitably lead to consequence Y is called the “slippery slope” fallacy. Look it up. You cannot predict that match made players complaining will result in specific changes. But it sure sounds scary! Fact - whether you access team activities through match making in the game UI or through external means, you still have the option to use the mic and coordinate (or not). Fact - players will have feedback on activities no matter how they access them (recall the many posts when VOG was released, regarding the mechanics). Bungie deciding to change or not may not even rely that heavily on these sorts of complaints but they will happen no matter how people get into the activities. Now you could be honest and just admit that your biggest issue with this is that you feel it cheapens your status as someone that has done a raid versus people like OP that have not? Either way, enjoy your day bud.

"You cannot predict that match made players complaining will result in specific changes." That's funny when you look at how much Bungie watered down Destiny. Call it a fallacy by all means as there's no current results sure.........but beware the history of a company that has bent the knee to a crying casual community on numerous issues.

Can you prove that the perceived “watering down” was at the behest of casual players complaining? I have not researched it myself but I suspect you won’t find any press releases that indicate they made the game easier based on complaints of difficulty. If anything they made those decisions based on data, gameplay stats, and their cash flow projections. Either way, match making isn’t going to ruin the game somehow.

Indeed I can. When everything gets easier who benefits more? When something goes from being challenging to a pushover who's benefitting more? Nothing changes for the hardcore or Average. It gets easier for the casual. When they're happy Bungie are happy. It's been a consistent thing for well over a year or 2 now. That's why Stasis was left unchecked. Why DMT was left to run riot. The list goes on. You don't need a press release. You just need to see the patch notes. Content changes / releases.

[quote]Indeed I can. When everything gets easier who benefits more? When something goes from being challenging to a pushover who's benefitting more? Nothing changes for the hardcore or Average. It gets easier for the casual. When they're happy Bungie are happy. It's been a consistent thing for well over a year or 2 now. That's why Stasis was left unchecked. Why DMT was left to run riot. The list goes on. You don't need a press release. You just need to see the patch notes. Content changes / releases.[/quote] I appreciate your point but you’re just drawing your own conclusions. Nothing wrong with what you think, I’m just pointing out that you aren’t proving that Bungie has made all these game changes to placate a specific class of player. And for all I know you might be 100% correct, but who can be sure, eh?

fool, you see the crying already. fact it is a bad idea. fact garbage players and super casuals will never make it through an encounter much less a clear when matched together. fact those crying they need matchmaking have the same options of those who do it now. they hold themselves back and that is a factual bottom line. now you could be honest with yourself and realize you have not made the necessary effort to do anything and are more comfortable pointing fingers instead.

[quote]fool, you see the crying already. fact it is a bad idea. fact garbage players and super casuals will never make it through an encounter much less a clear when matched together. fact those crying they need matchmaking have the same options of those who do it now. they hold themselves back and that is a factual bottom line. now you could be honest with yourself and realize you have not made the necessary effort to do anything and are more comfortable pointing fingers instead.[/quote] Bad idea - your opinion. Garbage players and super casuals never make it through an encounter - aside from your unnecessary adjectives, this is pure conjecture Same options - yea they do, you’re right. Doesn’t mean that making it easier to find a fire time within the UI is going to change your experience, however. Not sure what you’re getting at with my effort? If you mean this discussion, or my gameplay history? And I’m not pointing fingers at anyone, but I am calling you out for your attitude.